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Old 06-11-2007, 02:45 AM   #16
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now now...why take the fun out of rebuilding a brush motor?
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:19 AM   #17
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FSEARA series uses 13.5 Novak in Masters Class. In Mod it's open.In Masters you are allowed to use Brushed(27t) motor or Brushless.The Series will problably go 13.5 Novak and brushed stock for the TC Stock class and in 19t TC will allow 10.5 novak or brushed 19t.
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Grizzbob---

Novak's new EX motors are offered with the bonded rotors. Novak was aware that some tracks or clubs still only allow brushless motors with bonded rotors in the spec/stock classes.

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And if those near you are using it with the sintered rotor, then of course it'll be faster than a ROAR-legal stock(those rotors, are MUCH stronger than the original bonded ones, which is why Novak uses them in ALL of their BL motors. But with the bonded rotor, the 13.5 in the car runs VERY close to a brushed stock. Which is why at our track we're allowing the 13.5 in stock, but only with the bonded rotor......
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Old 06-11-2007, 09:09 AM   #19
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just a question because in France we are looking for opportunities of allowing brushless in other classes than mod.

For those who allow the brushless in stock or 19T classes, have you a way to control these brusless motors?
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So you prefer the less powerful, high maintenance brushed motors?
nascar would even gayer than it already is if they were running brushed electric motors.
you obviously didnt get my analogy....nevermind
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:04 AM   #21
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Star ?

You mean, if I buy a Monte Carlo I`ll get hit on by gay guy`s ?

O-Noooooo !!!!!

Guess I`m looking at the Colorado now.....
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:18 AM   #22
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We run the Novak 13.5 and 4300. We don't run much mod, but anything would go in mod. It makes for some great racing. I love being able to cruise around and actually socialize with buddies.
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You mean, if I buy a Monte Carlo I`ll get hit on by gay guy`s ?

Ow.....

You wish. News flash, Nobody's gonna hit on YOu
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:23 AM   #24
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Electric Sportsmen Class: Any motor you want stock, mod, etc. We have breakout lap times which is based on a good driver taking a conservative line with a stock motor. If you go below that time your lap doesnt count.

Electric Pro Class: Novak 10.5 or 19T only. No other brand brushless motors.

Seems to work well for us.
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Electric Sportsmen Class: Any motor you want stock, mod, etc. We have breakout lap times which is based on a good driver taking a conservative line with a stock motor. If you go below that time your lap doesnt count.

Electric Pro Class: Novak 10.5 or 19T only. No other brand brushless motors.

Seems to work well for us.

Just wait ...
Lrp & Orion will change all of that ....
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At the Bass Pro Shops Series by RC Racing Xtreme in Jackson. MS they allow the Novak 13.5 in Stock Sedan, the Novak 4300/10.5 in 19t Sedan and any BL in Mod Sedan. They even allow LiPo's (Per ROAR weight rules) Best of everything!!
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Just wait ...
Lrp & Orion will change all of that ....
You mean people will want to run other brands? We already tried to get the Orion allowed. The racetrack owner said he would run all the new brushless people wanted to race with and would determine if he would allow them or not. For now its just Novak.
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Novak's new EX motors are offered with the bonded rotors. Novak was aware that some tracks or clubs still only allow brushless motors with bonded rotors in the spec/stock classes.
Yeah, I knew about those, but I already have my 13.5(got it at the Novak Race in Janurary, just have to put up with the bonded rotors until we can get our track to allow sintered.....
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does your club racing allow brushless? if so is it based on the motor or the esc? what class can you run with brushless? stock, 19t, mod, spec ??
In South East Queensland all teh clubs allow the Novak 13.5 ( bonded rotor only ) to run with the Stock class. We also allow the Novak 4300 (bonded rotor) to run with the 19t class.

They work well with good close racing. The inclusion of the sintered rotor would kill that as it is much faster in both cases.
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the track i race at allows novak 13.5 w/ bonded or sintered rotor in stock and novak 10.5 (4300) w/ bonded or sintered rotor in 19t. in stock, the bl with sintered rotor seems to have a significant advantage, but in 19t brushed seems a bit faster down the straight.
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