licenced bodys
06-07-2007, 10:03 AM
#16
Originally Posted by Branden Moody
I think the only thing that is being licensed is the stickers not the actual car.
06-07-2007, 10:23 AM
#17
It is very clear that this body:
Is based on...
Is based on...
06-07-2007, 10:23 AM
#18
Well lets look at HPI, I know that they are not Race bodies, but all of their bodies are based on real cars, how can they afford to license every style they make, they use the body style, name, logo, etc.. of companies like Lambroghini, BMW, and Porsche.
Great example Barry
Great example Barry
06-07-2007, 10:47 AM
#19
...I'd call HPI and talk to someone in thier legal department and ask them how much $$$ they spend on their licensing fees...I'd be the numbers would astound you...but does HPI care? I'd bet not, because it's just a part of doing business so that expense will get passed on to the 'END USER'
The following was a quote from Dale Epp @ Protoform when he was working on our Toyota Based OVAL body..
This was from November '06
The following was a quote from Dale Epp @ Protoform when he was working on our Toyota Based OVAL body..
Protoform "HDT" will be ready as soon as I'm able. Decal sheets are sometimes slow in coming and effect the release date. PLEASE, do not try to pre-order this body style at your local hobby shop or distributor - or question the staff @ Proline. Please be patient. As soon as part number and estimated release date are realistic - I'll post the details here on HobbyTalk. Corporate licensing extortionists will not affect the release date as they have in the past. That's about all I can say right now.
06-07-2007, 12:04 PM
#20
"Corporate Licensing Extorshonists" 
sad but true. I am sure they are making money above and beyond the cost of liscensing these bodies, they have to, otherwise there would be no Mazda 6, Parma Alfa, or any of the Nascar bodies for Oval. Like SWTour said the cost is being passed on to us, I guess I should have been a little more clear in my question, HPI bases all of their bodies on real cars, but they are not as widley used as say the Mazda 6, because of this how can they afford to keep using these high priced liscensed bodies, when they (at least from my experiance) are hardly used. Maybe they sell more than I think, I don't know.
sad but true. I am sure they are making money above and beyond the cost of liscensing these bodies, they have to, otherwise there would be no Mazda 6, Parma Alfa, or any of the Nascar bodies for Oval. Like SWTour said the cost is being passed on to us, I guess I should have been a little more clear in my question, HPI bases all of their bodies on real cars, but they are not as widley used as say the Mazda 6, because of this how can they afford to keep using these high priced liscensed bodies, when they (at least from my experiance) are hardly used. Maybe they sell more than I think, I don't know.
06-07-2007, 12:28 PM
#21
Originally Posted by Big B
"Corporate Licensing Extorshonists" sad but true. I am sure they are making money above and beyond the cost of liscensing these bodies, they have to, otherwise there would be no Mazda 6, Parma Alfa, or any of the Nascar bodies for Oval. Like SWTour said the cost is being passed on to us, I guess I should have been a little more clear in my question, HPI bases all of their bodies on real cars, but they are not as widley used as say the Mazda 6, because of this how can they afford to keep using these high priced liscensed bodies, when they (at least from my experiance) are hardly used. Maybe they sell more than I think, I don't know.
sad but true. I am sure they are making money above and beyond the cost of liscensing these bodies, they have to, otherwise there would be no Mazda 6, Parma Alfa, or any of the Nascar bodies for Oval. Like SWTour said the cost is being passed on to us, I guess I should have been a little more clear in my question, HPI bases all of their bodies on real cars, but they are not as widley used as say the Mazda 6, because of this how can they afford to keep using these high priced liscensed bodies, when they (at least from my experiance) are hardly used. Maybe they sell more than I think, I don't know.cheers,
al
06-07-2007, 01:53 PM
#22
Originally Posted by rampal
They're hardly used on 1/10 competition, but I know a bunch of fellas that don't race that have their TC3, Evos, TT01 and drift machines with nice bodies like the murcielago, Mercedes AMG, ferrari 360, honda s2000, mazda RX8 (this guy even has the "real" thing, amazing)... basically is not the competition that moves the market.... they're hardly used on TC racing, that's true.... but that's only one side of the coin....
cheers,
al
cheers,
al
06-07-2007, 06:55 PM
#23
I have a good friend and former team mate who now lives in Tokyo, we talked some time back about how that market really loved "REAL" looking cars, he talked about some of the old Tamiya stuff that had little windshield wiper arms, chrome inserts in the outside mirrors...sticker detail quality that was second to none.
I also remember being involved with NORRCA when the early Touring Car thing got started..and it was said "Those will never catch on or become popular"
NORRCA started this class with what they called T/K cars, similar to what they had done for the then popular F-1 style cars.
The idea was to ONLY allow the kits from Tamiya and Kyosho. I think I drove one of the guys prototype Yokomo cars or something about then too. Wow, where that class has come and gone since then...
I also remember being involved with NORRCA when the early Touring Car thing got started..and it was said "Those will never catch on or become popular"
NORRCA started this class with what they called T/K cars, similar to what they had done for the then popular F-1 style cars.
The idea was to ONLY allow the kits from Tamiya and Kyosho. I think I drove one of the guys prototype Yokomo cars or something about then too. Wow, where that class has come and gone since then...
06-08-2007, 01:17 AM
#24
Originally Posted by Big B
Thanks rampal, I see you have the Tamiya TA05MS ordered, when you get it you will have to post some pics, I am thinking of picking one up myself
that will indeed be a "constructive" post I can't hardly wait for it....Ah, I forgot to say, I was on that "club" as well, I used to run a murcielago back in the day, and I've ordered a saleen S7R from HPI a couple of days ago... just for shelf queen nevertheless...
It's a pity you can't show up at the track with it...cheers,
al
06-08-2007, 01:35 AM
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The 'Corporate Licensing Extortionists' idea doesn't necessarily apply to everyone...
I happen to work for one of the big car companies and have been responsible for providing our actual CAD data to some of the r/c companies for licensed products.
And we give them the data, and even spend weeks modifying it to suit 190mm and 200mm cars to make sure the scale look is perfect. Total cost to the r/c company for that work? - Zero
Licensing fee? - Zero
I cant guarantee thats how it happens all over, but certainly where I come from they're very happy to have their products promoted in this way..
I happen to work for one of the big car companies and have been responsible for providing our actual CAD data to some of the r/c companies for licensed products.
And we give them the data, and even spend weeks modifying it to suit 190mm and 200mm cars to make sure the scale look is perfect. Total cost to the r/c company for that work? - Zero
Licensing fee? - Zero
I cant guarantee thats how it happens all over, but certainly where I come from they're very happy to have their products promoted in this way..
06-08-2007, 02:43 AM
#26
Originally Posted by tony gray
The 'Corporate Licensing Extortionists' idea doesn't necessarily apply to everyone...
I happen to work for one of the big car companies and have been responsible for providing our actual CAD data to some of the r/c companies for licensed products.
And we give them the data, and even spend weeks modifying it to suit 190mm and 200mm cars to make sure the scale look is perfect. Total cost to the r/c company for that work? - Zero
Licensing fee? - Zero
I cant guarantee thats how it happens all over, but certainly where I come from they're very happy to have their products promoted in this way..
I happen to work for one of the big car companies and have been responsible for providing our actual CAD data to some of the r/c companies for licensed products.
And we give them the data, and even spend weeks modifying it to suit 190mm and 200mm cars to make sure the scale look is perfect. Total cost to the r/c company for that work? - Zero
Licensing fee? - Zero
I cant guarantee thats how it happens all over, but certainly where I come from they're very happy to have their products promoted in this way..
06-08-2007, 02:49 AM
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Nope...wrong side of the fence...
06-08-2007, 03:23 AM
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Sadly thats a bit of a 'boutique' choice... You certainly wont see one from a major manufacturer... But I wouldn't argue if someone did one thats for sure.
06-08-2007, 04:12 AM
#30
Originally Posted by Capelracer
Well then, you're obviously a man of great taste & intelligence.... so when's an XB coupe gonna be available in either 190 or 200mm??
http://www.hpieurope.com/gallery.php?catId=190&lang=en
I have a catalogue at home and there are even more than these...
hope it helps,
cheers,
