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Old 05-31-2007, 10:10 AM
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"Orange" is your bet bet. I've run Novak stuff forever, every once in a while gone to other stuff. and always went back to Novak. And so you know, I'm not getting anything for saying this.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:23 AM
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Hey Guys,

This is interesting to me of course. From my experience with our systems the 13.5 stuff never even gets close to getting the ESC hot enough to thermal, or even think of thermalling.

The motor is another story, gearing it up will make the motor hot and the Novak System is the only one that has Motor Temperature Protection. The LRP and the rest only have thermal protection on the ESC itself.

If you're using the 13.5 motors with The Sintered Rotors there is no real concern over the rotor overheating, you can remove the temperature protection of the motor by simply removing the Blue Wire from the Sensor harness. This will stop the motor from activating the Motor Temperature Protection. The ESC's are generally never past "warm" so there is no reason to suspect the ESC.

You can always email our tech department directly, please share this with your local racers.

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Old 05-31-2007, 10:32 AM
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Anytime I read about somebody thermalling a Novak product, I automatically ask about their gear ratio. It leads me to believe that people are gearing their cars as if it has a brushed set-up and we know what happens after that......
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:38 AM
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Isn't Orion and Team Checkpoint coming out with new brushless systems soon?

How did those systems compare to the Novak and LRP at the Reedy Race?
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:39 AM
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The Orange one is good , but you`ll gona get beat by the Blue one...

You decide which one is best for you ....
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:47 AM
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I think Orion and Checkpoint make only BL motors, not BL ESC, You can't call them systems.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:51 AM
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I run the new Novak GTB SS and the new 10.5 SS in my tamiya MRE ( no air duct), with a 5.1 ratio and 90 degree outside temp 110 degree track temp and after five minute races, my motor is between 100-126 degrees every time.....


oh yeah, no fan on the esc
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by B-day
I think Orion and Checkpoint make only BL motors, not BL ESC, You can't call them systems.
My bad. I guess what I meant to ask is how did the Orion and Checkpoint motors compare to the Novak and LRP at the Reedy race?
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sf85
My bad. I guess what I meant to ask is how did the Orion and Checkpoint motors compare to the Novak and LRP at the Reedy race?
Sorry, misunderstanding.
I remember someone said GM, Orion & Checkpoint all come from the same suppler. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Marc won with Checkpoint, Craig 2nd with Novak, Jeho 3rd with LRP in invitational. I mean, they are all very good motors.
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:59 AM
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Beware of the blue...Customer service sucks. big time.
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bxpitbull
Anytime I read about somebody thermalling a Novak product, I automatically ask about their gear ratio. It leads me to believe that people are gearing their cars as if it has a brushed set-up and we know what happens after that......
The track I race at we are rolling out at around 45MM with the 10.5. Way more then a 19T. It flies. But definately gets hot. The Novaks will shut down but the LRP wont. I will have to have people try removing the wire.
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I am going to switch to brushless after the IIC and I am not experienced with brushless systems motors etc, so I wanted to find out some answers.

What exactly does it mean when you say that they "thermalled?" I am assuming that it has to do with something overheating

I saw a PDF for the Novak GTB instructions and it states that when you are running the 10.5 that you should gear the motor, at the most, 2 teeth above what you may run on brushed motors. Is this the norm or are people thermalliing because they are geared to the hilt?

Thanks for the info guys.
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Elboogie
What exactly does it mean when you say that they "thermalled?" I am assuming that it has to do with something overheating
Yes shutting down due to overheating protection.

Originally Posted by Elboogie
I saw a PDF for the Novak GTB instructions and it states that when you are running the 10.5 that you should gear the motor, at the most, 2 teeth above what you may run on brushed motors. Is this the norm or are people thermalliing because they are geared to the hilt?
You know racers. We push everything to the limit. Most people add tons of teeth to what they would run a 19T at (at least where I race). I would say those instructions say that for two different reasons. First they were probably done before the sintered rotors. And secondly to keep you from damaging the ESC and returning it for support.
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Or8ital, you have confirmed what I have thought. People pushing the envelope, thermaling and then wondering why. I know I cant say the same for Lrp. I ran within the parameters in their instructions and had nothing but PRAH-blums! They gave me fits to honor the warranty and by the time I got the new speedo, it was in and out of my hands before I could get any fingerprints on the pack.
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Originally Posted by or8ital
The track I race at we are rolling out at around 45MM with the 10.5. Way more then a 19T. It flies. But definately gets hot. The Novaks will shut down but the LRP wont. I will have to have people try removing the wire.
45mm for a 10.5?! In a sedan?
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