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Old 10-16-2007, 04:33 AM   #646
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A heavier but correct left-to-right balanced car (weightwise) will outperfom a lighter but not left-to-right balanced car at any given day.

Itīs easy to get a car down to around 1380g but very difficult to get it balanced right with 5-cells imo.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:45 AM   #647
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Tamiya ones for the 415 do.. Nathan Parker shoudl be able to confirm this (I believe the screw hole spacing is the same). Nathan asked me the other week about them, and I mentioned the brackets look very similar to the 415 ones... guess what, they are

IIRC, the 3.0 is very similar to a Tamiya 1D, and the 2.0 close to the 1B, and the 0.0 is the same as the 1XB. As a 1.0 bracket use the 1X.

This means you can use the brackets to vary toe, and track width....
the whole range of blocks go (widest to narrowest)
1E, 1D, 1C, 1B, 1A, 1X, 1XA, 1XB, 1XC, 1XD
with 0.5deg toe between each block.

In response to the previous question, for 2.5deg try 1C/0.0 or 3.0/1XA, and for 2deg try 1B/0.0 or 3.0/1X for 2deg.

N.B. Changing the rear block will narrow the rear of the car, changing the front will widen it.


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Held a S400 yesterday for the first time, so thought I'd measure up the serpent blocks vs the Tamiya ones.... I have to admit, got it slightly wrong...

Seems like a Tamiya 1C is very simialr to the 3.0, the 1D is certainly wider... shoudl mean that...

Tamiya 1E = Serpent 4.0
1D = 3.5
1C = 3.0
1B = 2.5
1A = 2.0
1X = 1.5
1XA = 1.0
1XB = 0.5
1XC = 0.0
1XD = -0.5

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Old 10-16-2007, 10:54 AM   #648
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Held a S400 yesterday for the first time, so thought I'd measure up the serpent blocks vs the Tamiya ones.... I have to admit, got it slightly wrong...

Seems like a Tamiya 1C is very simialr to the 3.0, the 1D is certainly wider... shoudl mean that...

Tamiya 1E = Serpent 4.0
1D = 3.5
1C = 3.0
1B = 2.5
1A = 2.0
1X = 1.5
1XA = 1.0
1XB = 0.5
1XC = 0.0
1XD = -0.5

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yes i'm tested 1C = Serpent 3.0 deg ,
but if use Tamiya mount , serpent STD 2mm washer need change to around 1.75mm .
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:12 PM   #649
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I'm also running with Tamiya blocks in the rear. I don't think you really need the 1.75mm washers, you can adjust the play when the tightening the blocks to the chassis

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yes i'm tested 1C = Serpent 3.0 deg ,
but if use Tamiya mount , serpent STD 2mm washer need change to around 1.75mm .
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:14 PM   #650
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I have also tried the Tamiya blocks, seem to be fine with the stock spacers.
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I have also tried the Tamiya blocks, seem to be fine with the stock spacers.
Straight fit no problems at all
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:46 PM   #653
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Anyone try other hinge pins on the car? Maybe Losi Type R's Titanium nitride or HB Cyclone WCE TiNitride hinge pins?
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:37 AM   #654
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Hi guys..

Been thinking of coming to the darkside and give the Serpent a shot.

Is there anything extra i need for getting it going well indoors on carpet (mainley carpetwars)

Any setups lying about

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Hi guys..

Been thinking of coming to the darkside and give the Serpent a shot.

Is there anything extra i need for getting it going well indoors on carpet (mainley carpetwars)

Any setups lying about

Cheers
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Hi Steve

Car can be run out of the box just great

If you head over to racechat you will find my set up from carpet wars last weekend and John Painters who raced 19T

Any questions just ask
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Hi anyone know if Xray springs fit the Serpent RRC shocks?
Also what about the Xray shocks fitting? Reading some pages somewhere on the Serpent I did not get the impression the RRCs are quickly adjustable like the Xrays, could be wrong of course. It mentioned 4 differnet shock pistons but not sure what these do.
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Hi anyone know if Xray springs fit the Serpent RRC shocks?
Also what about the Xray shocks fitting? Reading some pages somewhere on the Serpent I did not get the impression the RRCs are quickly adjustable like the Xrays, could be wrong of course. It mentioned 4 differnet shock pistons but not sure what these do.

The Serpent comes with 4 different pistons 1 2 3 and 4 holes

Xray you can use adjustables and use fixed pistons

Not sure on the springs or fitment though
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All of the Xray springs fit, but most of them you cannot get your ride height down below 5.5 to 6mm. Have used Schumacher, some Associated, Tamiya, Yokomo and HPI springs.


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Hi anyone know if Xray springs fit the Serpent RRC shocks?
Also what about the Xray shocks fitting? Reading some pages somewhere on the Serpent I did not get the impression the RRCs are quickly adjustable like the Xrays, could be wrong of course. It mentioned 4 differnet shock pistons but not sure what these do.
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All of the Xray springs fit, but most of them you cannot get your ride heigth down below 5.5 to 6mm. Have used Schumacher, some Associated, Tamiya, Yokomo and HPI springs.
Using the Long Tamyia springs you will also have problems with ride height
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Heres a pic of my car with the lipo. The car ran very well and I added weight to in inside of the battery to fix the balance.

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