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Old 06-04-2007, 04:34 PM   #31
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With the rules being what they are and a desire to be legalized for racing there is not much room for a "different" design. At least from a visual point of view.

The rules pretty much have dictated this "sameness" imho
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I don't get it. A couple of months ago people where saying that they wanted to see more company's come out with BL. Now they are, and people are complaining about it. I understand that they are OEM these motors, but I would rather have a cheaper BL then pay more for different kinds.
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I don't get it. A couple of months ago people where saying that they wanted to see more company's come out with BL.
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Go Hacker Brushless motors!
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:37 AM   #35
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I don't get it. A couple of months ago people where saying
that they wanted to see more company's come out with BL.
Now they are, and people are complaining about it.
The people wanting more Chinese knock-offs are surely not
the R/C companies trying to make a living from designing and
manufacturing originally-designed, sensored brushless motors.

If R/C companies can not recover their upfront costs for design
and tooling expenses, why should they be willing to invest even
more years and dollars bringing cutting-edge original designs to
market?
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The people wanting more Chinese knock-offs are surely not
the R/C companies trying to make a living from designing and
manufacturing originally-designed, sensored brushless motors.

If R/C companies can not recover their upfront costs for design
and tooling expenses, why should they be willing to invest even
more years and dollars bringing cutting-edge original designs to
market?
On that note - do you think Novak will offer the motors for OEM use in the future? I would imagine a good deal of interest in the knock offs is coming from aftermarket/tuning companies that are trying to figure out how they are going to bridge their way into the brushless era.
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On that note - do you think Novak will offer the motors for OEM use in the future? I would imagine a good deal of interest in the knock offs is coming from aftermarket/tuning companies that are trying to figure out how they are going to bridge their way into the brushless era.
I think Novak cares deeply about preserving its unique brand. Even the ESC that comes with the Traxxas E-Maxx is branded Novak!
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Totally. I can respect that too. Branding is important.

You just can't have it both ways - the tuner market will be looking for brushless suppliers in a big way soon. Either you sell to them, or they will buy it wherever they can get it. It's the nature of the beast.
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The people wanting more Chinese knock-offs are surely not
the R/C companies trying to make a living from designing and
manufacturing originally-designed, sensored brushless motors.

If R/C companies can not recover their upfront costs for design
and tooling expenses, why should they be willing to invest even
more years and dollars bringing cutting-edge original designs to
market?
it's really as simple as market demand. the better engineered and manufactured motor will perform better, and will sell better.

it really surprises me how some racers will spend $400+ on a chassis, but will cheap out when it comes to other things. the electrics are easily as important as the chassis they go in. i don't know about others, but i hang on to those things (speedo, servo, receiver, transmitter, etc...) much longer than any chassis.
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The people wanting more Chinese knock-offs are surely not
the R/C companies trying to make a living from designing and
manufacturing originally-designed, sensored brushless motors.

If R/C companies can not recover their upfront costs for design
and tooling expenses, why should they be willing to invest even
more years and dollars bringing cutting-edge original designs to
market?
Cry me a river Novak2...
Like others have said, this is the way business works these days. So instead of coming in and bashing the knock-offs, why don't you make better use of your time and figure out a way around it. Companies like Apple manage to do quite well. They continue to innovate, market and stay ahead of the pack. Here's your chance to show us how smart you really are...
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