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davioh 04-14-2003 02:42 AM

good 20's motors
 
hey i was wondering whats a good and cheapish 23 or sumthing motor? type RR? type T type R? not tamiya?

j0n0 04-14-2003 03:57 AM

Try the ATlas 23 Turn motors, they are pretty fast and very cheap

davioh 04-14-2003 04:00 AM

i think i had one of those...or i think it was a 16...i'll give it a shot! thanks :nod:

marvi 04-14-2003 04:37 AM

tamiya type s or rr :tire: these are inexpensive motors (our lhs sells these for about half the price of 27 turn roar legal motors) and can really take a beating. plus, theyre rebuildable and with the convenience of slip-on capacitor board. only thing left to solder is a diode (if you have a non-reversing esc)

yokogod 04-14-2003 04:41 AM

atlas 23's are great, the splash i find is the most consistent and longest lasting.

Aku-Man 04-14-2003 11:37 AM

Type-RR or Luna 23T

davioh 04-14-2003 11:43 AM

those are both 23T's rite?

davioh 04-14-2003 11:43 AM

2 type rr
2 atlas
1 luna
hm.....:confused:

Awesome 04-14-2003 11:45 AM

Tamiya Rr, bought one for 150HKD.
But this was I think 6 months ago.
Not sure if they are still available. I don't see then anymore around MK.

It has good torque and top end.

Atlas splash is good too but more expensive +/- 200 hkd.
Have one of these too.

I have a Luna also but it was very bad balanced.
This one is also around the 200hkd region

davioh 04-14-2003 11:51 AM

i guess im going for the RR then the atlas then the luna! thanks fer everyones help!

TAO4R 04-14-2003 03:42 PM

I had a R type tamiya. 23T and ive had it for like 2 years and it hasnt ever had a problem. i sold it to geof:D but it is still going strong.

JDM_DOHC_SiR 04-14-2003 03:44 PM

ATLAS/LUNA/Yokomo/Xenon/Orion
 
There are some really great 23t Stocks out there...but there are some Dogs' too

These are just some of the ones' that are the Hot ticket:nod: by manufacture

Atlas: Splash R
Soild Red
Toyomichi Edition( Damn fast motor:nod:)

Luna: Pink Heat sinks(sorry forgot the name :rolleyes:)
Blue end Bell with Black heat sinks ( new motor Lots of torque and Rpm)

Yokomo: RSR
RSL

Xenon: 23T Red
23T Blue

Orion: Speed demon 23T (laydown brush type)

These are some of the Best 23T's that I have use to this Date
:nod:

if you want to know which one I like the best just look at my Avitar:lol:

-Dave:sneaky:

Awesome 04-14-2003 09:53 PM

Ah.. yes the Toyomichi Edition.
That's indeed a fast motor.

It also draws current like a modified.
So I get less running time from it.
Sometimes I can't reach he 8 minutes.
Any advice on this motor ?
I gear it up to 5.5 on a relative large track.

j0n0 04-14-2003 11:02 PM

yer i use the atlas solid 23T, we only race wti h27 turn motors here, but i use this motor for practicing :D

JDM_DOHC_SiR 04-15-2003 12:22 PM


Originally posted by Awesome
Ah.. yes the Toyomichi Edition.
That's indeed a fast motor.

It also draws current like a modified.
So I get less running time from it.
Sometimes I can't reach he 8 minutes.
Any advice on this motor ?
I gear it up to 5.5 on a relative large track.


I'll agree with you on the 8 mins :lol: it is kind of hard..but your final ratio...needs to be changed from the 5.5 that your at now:eek: :sweat: ...try running in the 5.7~5.8 Range... this motor has ton's of top end!!:eek: :nod: ... I run better times with this motor than I do with some of my 10T singles:sweat: :lol:

-Dave:sneaky:

Aku-Man 04-15-2003 12:28 PM

What about the new HPI super sport 23T RS motor? They said they built it for 3300 battery. Is it good motor?

BigDogRacing 04-15-2003 12:28 PM

I would buy a 19t Chameleon motor to run and practice with if I were you. Then you could gear it to BARELY make run time and you know the 23T would make it. Also, they are cheap, and you wouldn't have to tune iit at all, becasue a really good 23t should run almost as good as an average, untuned 19t. Just use it for tuning and practice. Then put your fastest 23t legal motor in and BAM!, you're on the pace bro!! LOL :d

JDM_DOHC_SiR 04-15-2003 12:53 PM


Originally posted by Aku-Man
What about the new HPI super sport 23T RS motor? They said they built it for 3300 battery. Is it good motor?

The HPI 23T RS L type is a Carbon copy of the Orion 23T Speed Demon L Type...You will see about 4.5 amps draw @ 7.2 Volts with 28000~29500 Rpm..but it has Lots of bottom end:nod: :D

Also Kawada Just cam out with a new Version of there 23T V stock ..

it has some kind of Black coating on the Arm' :weird: :confused:
-Dave:sneaky:

davioh 04-16-2003 10:45 AM

how long do 11T's compare to 23T's with runtime with 3300mah's?

Awesome 04-16-2003 10:51 AM


Originally posted by JDM_DOHC_SiR
I'll agree with you on the 8 mins :lol: it is kind of hard..but your final ratio...needs to be changed from the 5.5 that your at now:eek: :sweat: ...try running in the 5.7~5.8 Range... this motor has ton's of top end!!:eek: :nod: ... I run better times with this motor than I do with some of my 10T singles:sweat: :lol:

-Dave:sneaky:

Thanks for advice.
I will try it out next practice run.
But still it is a heck of a motor.
As you already stated it runs like a 11-12T.

Awesome 04-16-2003 11:02 AM


Originally posted by davioh
how long do 11T's compare to 23T's with runtime with 3300mah's?
Bearely 8 minutes, but depending how you gear it.

davioh 04-16-2003 11:07 AM

wah...as fast as an 11T? why is it called 23 then?!

stoopidbstrd 04-16-2003 11:20 AM

strange that no one mentioned the trinity monster stock. i pick the tamiya type RR

Awesome 04-16-2003 11:21 AM

Because it got 23 Turns in the armature.
And it is a legal stock.
No Ball bearings just bushings.

Awesome 04-16-2003 11:30 AM


Originally posted by stoopidbstrd
strange that no one mentioned the trinity monster stock. i pick the tamiya type RR
Trinity monster stock are 27T stockers.
Not very common here, we race with 23T stockers like Japan.

JDM_DOHC_SiR 04-16-2003 01:57 PM


Originally posted by Awesome
Trinity monster stock are 27T stockers.
Not very common here, we race with 23T stockers like Japan.

I have 27T's and some of the new Monsters' and they don't even come close to my 23T Stocks:D

-Dave:sneaky:

stoopidbstrd 04-16-2003 06:50 PM


Originally posted by JDM_DOHC_SiR
I have 27T's and some of the new Monsters' and they don't even come close to my 23T Stocks:D

-Dave:sneaky:

in other words, all that whacky hype was for nil.:lol:

JDM_DOHC_SiR 04-16-2003 06:55 PM


Originally posted by stoopidbstrd
in other words, all that whacky hype was for nil.:lol:
:lol: Yep:p ;)

-Dave:blush:

lee82gx 04-16-2003 08:19 PM

i havent had a chance to try so many of those 23T stockers yet
but i'm currently using yokomo RST-torque and i gear it like mad.
these days , the trend is towards the L-type motors.laydown brushes ,but i havent tried those yet.

anyone knows which one runs coolest on average gearing,say 6.0?

JDM_DOHC_SiR 04-16-2003 08:29 PM


Originally posted by lee82gx
i havent had a chance to try so many of those 23T stockers yet
but i'm currently using yokomo RST-torque and i gear it like mad.
these days , the trend is towards the L-type motors.laydown brushes ,but i havent tried those yet.

anyone knows which one runs coolest on average gearing,say 6.0?

They all run pretty cool on a 6.0 final gearing.. :nod: .. On average I gear in the 5.7~5.8 range with the Hi RPM ones and the Torque ones I gear in the 5.2~5.5 Range:D

-Dave:sneaky:


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