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Old 05-02-2007, 05:39 PM   #1
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so as I float around the internet I happen to see this race sponsor sheet for the LRP TCM 2007 race

check out what lemieux was running for a motor.

http://www.lrp-electronic.de/tcm2007...Masters_fv.pdf
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:18 PM   #2
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There is a pic of Paulie's car in the LRP Touring Masters thread with the Truespeed Brushless motor installed.

http://rctech.net/forum/showthread.p...light=2007+LRP
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:52 PM   #3
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How did Jiles use the sensorless Trinity N80 with the LRP ESC (sensored)? Can the LRP handle sensoress motors, or is there a factual error?
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so as I float around the internet I happen to see this race sponsor sheet for the LRP TCM 2007 race

check out what lemieux was running for a motor.

http://www.lrp-electronic.de/tcm2007...Masters_fv.pdf
I was there with Paul. Brushless is the only way to make runtime with 5 cells. It was something that he didn't want to do, but Jim had some ready for him in case.
I wouldn't count on seeing it in his cars for any 6 cell races.

Jilles was running the LRP speedo and trinity motor, but I forgot to look if he had a sensored motor (and he was right accross the table.) His car was really fast, whatever he did. The new LRP speedos are really a good step in brushless technology. There were no problems with any of them over there, and 90% of the field were running them. They are starting to get more to the brushed "feel."
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:56 AM   #5
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I'm beginning to think SpeedPassion is the OEM for every sensored motor except for Novak, and a few sensorless brands as well.

Did Paul say why he didn't want to run brushless? I guess what I mean, is, does he dislike the way it works/feels, or is it something more along the lines of being loyal to a sponsor/company? Just curious, no flaming intended.

We kind of knew this was the case with 4 cell, and apparently now it's true with 5 cell as well. I'm not sure how I feel about that compromise. At least with 6 cell, brushed motors are still an option for those that prefer them, especially in mod. I think it's a mistake to take that away. Die 5 cell, die!
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:45 AM   #6
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Jilles ran our LRP speedo with a sensored Trinity brushless motor, not sure which type that is since I'm not so familiar with their motors. But all ran really well and he was satisfied with the speedos and motors performance as far as I could tell...

@Syndrome: add LRP to your list of "no connection to SpeedPassion whatsoever" list please...
Can't speak for others, but we do develop and produce all our stuff ourselves and not just OEM it from someone else.
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*high-fives Reto for being part of the "We Make Our Own Motor Club"*
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How did Jiles use the sensorless Trinity N80 with the LRP ESC (sensored)? Can the LRP handle sensoress motors, or is there a factual error?
It can be done easily. LRP as well as Novak can do it. According to what I read on another forum, the ESC will just guess the position of the rotor and pump out the juice. The only coggin issue will usually be at the onset of a race (or after a crash). With good cells, it would be barely noticeable.
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[QUOTE=syndr0me]
Die 5 cell, die![/QUOTE]

I have been getting flamed out in the Cyclone thread for this very sentiment.
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Die 5 cell, die![/QUOTE]

I have been getting flamed out in the Cyclone thread for this very sentiment.
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How did Jiles use the sensorless Trinity N80 with the LRP ESC (sensored)? Can the LRP handle sensoress motors, or is there a factual error?
He was running the Trinity N60 motor- not the N80. The N60 motor is super light, weighin in at 151g! So better balance on cars and better power to weight ratio- however, the N60 is sensorless! If he ran it with the LRP, then he could not have used the sensor harness...and then, its like Pitbull says...
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what classes can a 1/10th scale mamba 5700kv run in?
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hi all:I'm thinkin that because truespeed is using trinity tear downs as the base of their motors it makes sence now that trinity is offering a brushless truespeed would follow.just my thoughts

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He was running the Trinity N60 motor- not the N80. The N60 motor is super light, weighin in at 151g! So better balance on cars and better power to weight ratio-

VERY interesting!!
<--- wishes his Mamba Max motor weighed 40g less
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hi all:I'm thinkin that because truespeed is using trinity tear downs as the bace of their motors it makes sence now that trinity is offering a brushless truespeed would follow.just my thoughts
They use more that the Trinity teardowns. Most of their offroad winds are Orion. That is what is nice about Truespeed and other companies like BrOOd. They can run what it the best for what they need,
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