R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-19-2007, 12:09 AM   #16
Tech Addict
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 556

toe out makes the car more unstable but does increase turn in. I avoid it if possible.

ixlr8nz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 01:54 AM   #17
Tech Adept
jo90's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 125

Toe out makes the car tramline on bumps, kinda twitchy in straight lines, but it does allow a more agressive entry into a corner. To be honest it may be better using akerman change to achieve corner entry steering and keep wheels almost parallel
Sponsored by SerpentUK, ModelTech & MTroniks

S400 / MTroniks IP6 / Team Brood / KO Propo = Loads of fun
jo90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 06:30 AM   #18
Tech Elite
wallstreet's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,904
Trader Rating: 20 (92%+)
Send a message via AIM to wallstreet

Originally Posted by CAlbrecht
What?....Tow out in the front is your freind ALWAYS...Tow out allows you to come on the straight and let go of the wheel and your car will go down the straght on its own..Trun is better and at exit is smoother and more consistant..

Ackerman ..if you know what it does can help or hurt you..

Listen to this man he speaks the truth
wallstreet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 07:58 AM   #19
Tech Master
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: San Diego, Ca.
Posts: 1,024
Trader Rating: 29 (100%+)

when you are in a turn, the outside wheels are running in a larger radius circle than your inside wheels, by toeing it out(a small amount)your inside tire will effectivly be turned more than the outside tire, making both follow the actual radius they going thru better, ackerman does the same thing but its harder to work with as most cars dont have any way to change it, how much caster you run also affects how much cross weight change you get when turning, so ackerman or toe out will also make a difference there, so always consider that the changes you make to any corner of the car will probably be changing things at the other end too, so if your car turns in better or washes out in the middle or on exit with toe out, a caster change might help. Caster also controls the amount of camber while the wheels are turned.
Mdoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 08:19 AM   #20
Tech Champion
F. Mendoza's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 7,232
Trader Rating: 79 (100%+)

Run toe-in and wear a ridge down the inside edge of your tires. How can that be a good thing. Some toe-out makes the car a bit twitchy but gives you good initial turn-in when you get to the corners. Try 0 degrees of toe then add toe-out as your driving progresses. Ackerman is something that changes with adjusting toe on a car. Many racers wouldn't know how to adjust it. You probably shouldn't worry too much about ackerman at this point of racing. Wait a few months til you understand toe on a car before opening the next can of worms.
RC America - Xray - Hudy - Gravity RC - KO Propo - Super Rad Graphics

Mr. Shookie goes home 10-06-08. Bill Levinson 4-14-15
F. Mendoza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 10:28 AM   #21
Tech Master
adamge's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Saskatoon,SK Canada
Posts: 1,654
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)

Alright, I tried it. I went back to toe-out, and suddenly the back straight was super easy. Return the wheel to center out of the straight entrance corner, and whammo: car locks onto a straight line down the straight. I like-ee.
When someone is intent on excelling in an otherwise laudable manner, does he not desire to inflict pain on others by means of his exalted status and enjoy the envy he arouses? Is there not an anticipated delight in an artist's ability to defeat his artistic rivals, which heightens his euphoria in creation?
adamge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 10:47 AM   #22
Tech Master
Geetoo's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,871
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Geetoo Send a message via Yahoo to Geetoo

Originally Posted by civiceg
does anyone race without toe in the front?

For me, 0 front toe works best on round shaped long corners. It decreases your initial steer torwards rounded corners thus keeps your car's transition smoothly. Toe out works fine if you want more inital steering before corners. Although it also decreases speed on the straights, cause of scrubbing.
Geetoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 11:01 AM   #23
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Costa Mesa
Posts: 408


Toe out works fine if you want more inital steering before corners. Although it also decreases speed on the straights, cause of scrubbing.[/QUOTE]

The loss of speed on the straights in something you cant "feel" . toe-out allows your car to come onto the straight and hold that line until you trun in for the next..

"You dont win on the straight"
CAlbrecht is offline   Reply With Quote

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
****Revo****Integy Alloy Front, rear and middle-front skid plate set in silver. jf45 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 6 05-07-2008 12:04 PM
MBX5 Front Shock Tower or MBX5R Front Shocks skelly1344 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 2 08-09-2007 06:54 PM
3 sets of Front 4wd custum front tires with pics Tony Rivas R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 02-20-2007 12:55 PM
Hyper 7 cnc front knuckles/front upper arms trashedmaxx R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 2 09-17-2005 01:28 PM
Alum Tamiya TA04 Front Steering Block / Front Upright Alvin Singapore R/C Racers 2 02-04-2002 07:50 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT -7. It is currently 03:31 AM.

Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net