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Old 04-17-2007, 05:43 PM   #1
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can brushless 10.5 run with 19t?

I was wondering if 10.5 brushless can really be compared to a 19t, and if the new novak 10.5 with sinthered rotor is way beyond a 19 t. Can somebody tell their experience?
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Depends on who you ask, but it's fair to say the 10.5/Sintered/4300/Sintered are a bit quicker then your average 19 turn motor. But marginally faster then a "Pro" 19 turn motor.

The SS4300/Sintered and the 10.5 Pro/Sintered are the SAME motor. Just the Pro has cool looking ribbed endbells, and the blue ring.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:47 PM   #3
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19t is a spec but for fun i dont know.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:57 PM   #4
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Here is the issue:

We have been running at club level with the reedy 19 t,(I know is not the best 19 available out there) and there is a group of people triying to run brushless, but they are not enaugh to run by themselves. Anyway, we have had a crappy experience with lrp motors, so I need to know if there is something comparable to the reedy 19 t in brushless so we can move all slowly to brushless.
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here, in Nor-Cal we run the 10.5 (4300) in the 19 turn class.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:12 PM   #6
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and which one do you think is faster, or are they almost the same?

By the way, how large is your track?
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and which one do you think is faster, or are they almost the same?

By the way, how large is your track?
I personally feel on a small to medium size track the 10.5 is faster. On a medium to large size track they are close.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:27 PM   #8
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The BL isn't much faster on the top end, but out of the corner the torque is much greater. If you can lay the power down, you'll be faster than a spec 19t. So it really depends on your local racing scene, etc.
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here, in Nor-Cal we run the 10.5 (4300) in the 19 turn class.
Per the Novak specs sheet for BL motors, the 10.5 puts out 10 more watts than the 4300. 235W vs. 225W. Very close; but, not quite the same.
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At our local NCSW points series ....the leader in points for 19T is running brushed ...and pretty much kicking all us brushless 4300 guys a$$e$
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At my local track we are running 19T together with BL 4300.... It's is about equal and both party have no complaints. The only advantage running BL is there is no maintenance like we do on brushed motor. and more fun less headache.
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If the 4300 puts out 225 watts, I am the pope....thats a good 50 watts better than most tuned 19t motors....

The 4300 before the sintered rotor could not keep up with a good 19t.....at 2004 Paved Nats the stock guys were just barely off the 4300 class....

I dunno about all these ratings though.....I remember the 5800 was originally rated to be a 10 turn equal....

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The more I read this stuff of mixing the more I think one or the other will always be better than the other, and looks to that they will in the long run need separated brushed from brushless no matter what the class.
It seems the future will be one or the other no mixing aside from mod.
The range between brushed and brushless are to different.
The efforts to mix is getting to be to much.
At our track they wont allow 19t with 4300 even though I think they are close. I think the 19t is faster by a very small margin.

It seems brushed and brushless are just pushing to much against each other?
And I just don't see any equality in them just close comparisons.

Nothing like the good old days when it was P2KPro VS. P2KPro2, Green machine and so on.
We have always moved on from one motor to the next new one, and to me it looks brushless is the next breed.
Its an alien invasion.
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Harsh i dont think its the motor..A really good 19 turn is about the same for two minutes..Its tough to make a brused motor run the same for 5 minutes.The one thing i have noticed is all the tourqe the brushless motors makes seems to upset the cars.
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Harsh i dont think its the motor..A really good 19 turn is about the same for two minutes..Its tough to make a brused motor run the same for 5 minutes.The one thing i have noticed is all the tourqe the brushless motors makes seems to upset the cars.
Harsh as in why not run 19t and 4300? I agree if thats what you mean?
Kinda tees me off. They really are close at our track size. Its medium carpet.
Now they will let 19t and 5800 if some one wanted to run 5800.
I ran for fun with a guy thats one of our pro's and my 4300 was just 1 or 2 seconds off and that is probably my driving skill?
But one night of testing is worthless.
Its just the feel I get from every one I talk to and read on the tech. It seems brushed and brushless are just not good together. But I personally like the variety.

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