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Old 05-12-2009, 07:20 PM   #1321
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...have gotten myself a TA05 MS thanks to a mate. Now its time to dial it in!
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Old 05-16-2009, 07:55 AM   #1322
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cool, let us know what type of circuit / motor / tyres you are running. Its a great car especially when you get it all hooked up. Mine has been consistantly getting me in the A final. Superb car
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:48 AM   #1323
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...Sorex wheels and 27 rated tyres added. Running Yeah Racing 5.5T 6000kv motor and 60A ESC, together with a 5000mh Yeah Racing Lipo! Just insane fun.

FDR is 9.4 and will really have some fun for a few speed runs when I adjust the FDR to around 5 or 6.
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Old 05-25-2009, 01:39 AM   #1324
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Ok guys i am wanting to stiffen my car up, its pretty much stock atm with a few changes. Where and what would be the best place to start? I cant really go changing oils etc as i dont have a varity of tuning items. Im wanting my car to transition left to right quicker. Any help would be great.
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yep i found that the car lacking in fast direction changes with the stock set up.

you can do a few things....

1) stiffer springs
2) stiffer roll bars
3) remove the spacer between the hubs and the front wheels
4) raise the front roll centre. specifically, i have a 1.5mm spacer under the inside of the front camber link.

i have done all of this and the car is a rocket. option 3 made the best (not biggest) improvement.

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yep i found that the car lacking in fast direction changes with the stock set up.

you can do a few things....

1) stiffer springs
2) stiffer roll bars
3) remove the spacer between the hubs and the front wheels
4) raise the front roll centre. specifically, i have a 1.5mm spacer under the inside of the front camber link.

i have done all of this and the car is a rocket. option 3 made the best (not biggest) improvement.

cheers

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Sweet thanks mate ill give them a go. Is that stiffer springs all round? also when you say remove the spacers between the hubs is that the clamp spacer or the little blue shim/ spacer?
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Old 05-25-2009, 04:12 AM   #1327
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Ok guys i am wanting to stiffen my car up, its pretty much stock atm with a few changes. Where and what would be the best place to start? I cant really go changing oils etc as i dont have a varity of tuning items. Im wanting my car to transition left to right quicker. Any help would be great.
What's your set up now?

I remember that you asked about setting your car up for a spool. Back then, I erroneously said that a car with a spool likes more Ackerman. What I meant was spooled cars turn better with more spacers in the steering assembly which actually equates to less Ackerman.
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Old 05-25-2009, 04:24 AM   #1328
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Oh, I've been keeping up with Jilles' thread and his tips helped me to get my TA05MS and 416 really dialed. My old setups worked, but they were always flawed in some way or another.

I highly recommend using a spool, short LW arms, suspension mounts to go with the short arms, and zero degree rear uprights. I've attached my TA05MS set up with these items.
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3) remove the spacer between the hubs and the front wheels

i have done all of this and the car is a rocket. option 3 made the best (not biggest) improvement.
Just curious, do you use the short arms? I found that without at least a 0.5mm wheel spacer, the tyres tended to rub.
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Rubber on 0 degree offset rims were fine, foams on 0 degree offset rims were too close and would occasionally rub.
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Just curious, do you use the short arms? I found that without at least a 0.5mm wheel spacer, the tyres tended to rub.
no i dont use short arms, and yes the wheels will rub sometimes but u can fix it easy. Just use a sharp blade and shave the steering knuckle a little bit. The ball cup also needs doing a bit... If u do this the wheels wont rub at all.

If you look around at different rims they actually have slightly different offset, even though they say 0 or 2 or whatever. I always run 0. Also softer rims flex more, so they may rub when u hit something, which, of course, i would never do


FASTXXXS yes that is stiffer all round. I always run as stiff as i possibly can, because it makes the car more nimble and more responsive. It also makes it sit flatter through the corners, equating to more corner speed. And you will find that the more upright your rear shocks, the better it will do this. Remember that the only thing grip does is slow a car down, but we need it yo get round the corner.

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HI_808- My setup is pretty much stock except i have a spool, front shocks are mounted fully out on the towers, rears are in the middle. droop is about 3 all round springs are stock yellow.

Cribbin- Yes i am lacking corner speed which i found is crucial for 17.5. I have some harder springs that ill put in for some testing.
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HI_808- My setup is pretty much stock except i have a spool, front shocks are mounted fully out on the towers, rears are in the middle. droop is about 3 all round springs are stock yellow.

Cribbin- Yes i am lacking corner speed which i found is crucial for 17.5. I have some harder springs that ill put in for some testing.
omg if your front shocks are all the way out then of course it wont turn fast enough!! lean them in to the 2nd or 3rd hole and it will be heaps better. and your droop - is that actual droop or the downstop setting? i find it best when the downstops are 5mm front 4mm rear.

what is the track you are running on like? How is the surface?
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Ok ill give it a go on the weekend. Um im not sure what the down stop is but i use an associated droop guage and adjust the long grub screws in the suspension arms. The track im running on is low to med grip ashphalt, pretty tight with alot of hair pins, lap times are around 16.5sec for 17.5.
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yeah downstop setting is measured with the droop gauge, same thing.

give it a go and let us know how it goes, we will work from there...
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