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Old 05-07-2008, 04:11 PM   #1006
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Couple of things I can suggest (if you haven't tired them)

1) less rear toe-in, Try XA/D or X/D on the rear, this will give 2.5 and 2 deg of rear toe, which will help to free up the rear of the car. With a 13.5, 2.5 should be fine.

2) higher rear roll centre. Try 0.5mm under both rear suspension blocks, will also help free up the car. I notice your running a bit of Anti Squat on the car, this will also bind up the car a little.

Also, like Ken suggested, try some anti-dive under the front rear suspension block (the A block). Gives less castor (help with initial turn-in), and also helps to resist forward weight transfer.

Something else to try would also be the Short LWT arms (give a more repsonive car, and more grip ), and also wider rear blocks (say XA/E), which will give a slightly more stable rear end, but also give less overall grip.

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Old 05-07-2008, 04:47 PM   #1007
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Andrew,

where you running? The biggest culprit may be the MuchMore32s your running. Try premounted Sorex36Rs if you running at Tamiya.

I'll be there this saturday running my TA05 with a 13.5

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Old 05-14-2008, 03:14 PM   #1008
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Hey Chris!!!

I can't find any Sorex tires to be honest. I have only been running at Tamiya even though it has been about 2 months now. I hope to be out there on Saturday, but I have to go get new tires on my car and don't know how long that is going to take on a weekend. I need to get to running since the track won't be around that much longer.

You ever get that 416????

Thanks for the setup tips! I will try to experiment next time I go out and report back as to what happened.
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Old 05-21-2008, 01:11 AM   #1009
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Now that the ta05 MS has been for while.
I want to know what are the performance advantages if any of the MS when compared to tub chassis sister ship ta05 models?
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Old 05-21-2008, 01:31 AM   #1010
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does the TA05MS have different front steering hubs compared to the tub TA05/R?
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:41 AM   #1011
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The TA-05MS has exactly the same suspension parts as the TA-05R
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Old 05-21-2008, 11:56 AM   #1012
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Just got a MS. Can anyone point me to setup sheet for mid grip track as well as parking lot racing?
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:30 AM   #1013
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Hey, quick question, what is the transmission ratio on the TA05?
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Old 05-24-2008, 02:54 PM   #1014
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I know about the mechanics of both the ms and the r models.
What I'm wondering is if anyone has driven the ms and r back to back to see if there were any differences between the two vehicle?
i.e. the handling characteristics, ergonomics's, weight, and weight bias that give one of the chassis' an advantage while racing.
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Old 05-24-2008, 03:06 PM   #1015
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idr is 2.25.
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Old 05-24-2008, 05:31 PM   #1016
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I would like to know what rctouringracer is asking, as i have an R but thinking of upgrading to a MS.
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I've got both the MS and R models. My MS has more corner exit traction and better corner entry characteristics. The drivetrain also seems smoother. When I put the TA05R and the TA05MS against each other on an asphalt course, I was usually .2-.4 seconds faster per lap on an eight second course with the MS. If you like the handling of the TA05R, but are looking for a more purpose-built race car, the TA05MS is just that. Overall, I think that the TA05MS is a great choice for 10.5 or 13.5 classes.

The two cars use the same LW suspension and the same diff assemblies, but the weight layout differs quite a bit. The battery is moved closer to the center of the car and forward on the MS plus the motor is mounted more towards the rear of the car. Thus, it transitions weight quickly and is more stable on power, yet it sacrifices little, if any, corner entry angle in comparison to the TA05R. Because of the position of the motor on the MS, the front belt is longer and the rear belt is shorter. This is possibly what makes the drivetrain on the MS feel smoother.
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Thx HI_808... for answering rctouringracer's question.
The ta05r would be too costly to convert to a ta05 ms, imo it would be less expensive to purchase a new ms kit....
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Thanks for that HI_808.
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I've got both the MS and R models. My MS has more corner exit traction and better corner entry characteristics. The drivetrain also seems smoother. When I put the TA05R and the TA05MS against each other on an asphalt course, I was usually .2-.4 seconds faster per lap on an eight second course with the MS. If you like the handling of the TA05R, but are looking for a more purpose-built race car, the TA05MS is just that. Overall, I think that the TA05MS is a great choice for 10.5 or 13.5 classes.

The two cars use the same LW suspension and the same diff assemblies, but the weight layout differs quite a bit. The battery is moved closer to the center of the car and forward on the MS plus the motor is mounted more towards the rear of the car. Thus, it transitions weight quickly and is more stable on power, yet it sacrifices little, if any, corner entry angle in comparison to the TA05R. Because of the position of the motor on the MS, the front belt is longer and the rear belt is shorter. This is possibly what makes the drivetrain on the MS feel smoother.
i have noticed that when im competing against others in practice with different motors, i get them on the turns.
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