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Old 04-16-2007, 05:14 PM   #1
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hey all:Read on another site that tamiya may introduce a trf416 1/10th 4wd sedan in '07 or early '08 can anyone confirm this and or have info on this? thanks
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Where's the source? What website?

No source, no proof.
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Haha, the VAPORCAR.
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Of course we can...

If you follow Tamiya they have a new version every year...415, 415MS, MSX, MSXX, MSX Rhienhard Edition, MSXXX Hardcore Edition, MSYRR

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So, the TRF501X is just a stop-gap then.... don't think so...
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hey all:Read on another site that tamiya may introduce a trf416 1/10th 4wd sedan in '07 or early '08 can anyone confirm this and or have info on this? thanks
I know from Tamiya that the new car will be october-november...
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:34 AM   #7
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I think the source is some speculation on rczone.net when they reviewed a Kawada chassis conversion for the TA05.

Nothing confirmed to the public, however my gut feeling is that the limited edition Porsche 934 TA05 shows a few of the features that might appear on a TRF416.
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The car is real. Not sure if it actually runs better but it looks prepared for a LiPo future.

Pics from RedRC.net:


Source: http://www.redrc.net/2007/09/tamiya-...g-car-chassis/

From the horse's mouth: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=42106

Official info:
"In recent years, world-class on-road R/C touring car race events have encouraged the use of brushless motors in conjunction with event-controlled tires. To achieve success under such conditions, a fine balance must be achieved between handling and tire wear. It is with this in mind that Tamiya designers developed the concept of the brand new TRF416 chassis.


About the Model
1/10 scale assembly kit R/C model of the TRF416 chassis.
New 2.25mm lower deck design emphasizes simplicity, while the 2mm upper deck has been lengthened.
Front and rear bulkheads feature the same width while everything about the chassis down to the screw locations has been designed for optimum symmetry for better roll characteristics.
In order to obtain maximum traction, both the motor and the center shaft positions have been moved back to shift more weight to the rear of the car.
Drivetrain features front direct-drive, center direct-drive, and rear ball diff.
Front and rear uprights equipped with 1050 size ball bearings.
37T pulleys for front and rear, while an 18T pulley is installed in the center.
R/C system, body, tires, motor, ESC, battery & charger separately required.


ELECTRIC KITS REQUIRE:
(unless stated differently above)
Radio: 2-Channel with servo(s)
Battery: 6-cell flat with standard Tamiya connector
Charger: AC/DC timed or peak for 6-cell battery
Paint: PS for Polycarbonate/TS for ABS
Misc. Items: Building and track equipment"
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I tell you what, this could be my car next year......Even though I am winning with a PRO 4 against Xray 07 euros, I am waiting for the future car to get here...and this car, designed for BL, LIPO and rubber tires could be it......

I am going to wait to see if Xrays 08 is geared towards american OUTDOOR racing....if not, the tamiya is the ticket.......
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I guess I dont get it. Why is this car as pictured any better for lipo then others?
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I guess I dont get it. Why is this car as pictured any better for lipo then others?
big battery space.......but you are right, the important part is, it is designed with BL power in mind...
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Oh its faster! ITs new it has to be faster! All new cars are faster!! You watch everyone that buys one will say they are so much faster! But wont back it up with lap times LOL
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I have the 415MSX and it's not possible to fit a flat LiPo pack (of decent capacity) under the rear bulkhead. I can barely fit the Orion Carbon 3200mah if I grind away the arches above the battery to flatten them but I'm not sure how much this weakens the bulkhead as my grinding gets close to the bearing holder (so this bit of alloy between where the bearing holder ends and the battery begins gets pretty thin). So far, no problems but it does look a bit scary. Thicker packs like today's 4800mah and 5000mah packs are out of the question unless you don't mind having the battery on the outside of the bulkhead (moving weight away from the centre, sacrificing one of the advantages of the stock layout).

Before the photos were released, many people were expecting weight to be moved forward. The 416 has the motor, spur, and centre shaft, shaft bearings and bearing holders moved a bit to the rear. Tamiya claims this is done for traction. I don't know about that but I do know it clears up some room for the battery. Also, this clears up a bit of space on the electronics side so you can fit a chunky ESC in easier.

Also bear in mind that this car will be here almost the same time as the TRF415 MSXX MRE. Which one will TRF drivers be running in big non-LiPo races? Which one will dominate if battery rules change? We shall see.
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makes the Tc5 look outdated...(which, btw, I think it already is...)
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i'm think copy Serpent S400
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