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Old 04-05-2007, 09:39 AM   #1
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HI guys.

does anybody have any tips on how to setup a car for carpet using no traction compound. Like for example

Correct use of tire warmers

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Thank you very much and i would very much like it if you give me some good tips. Thank you

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running on a track which others are using compound or no one is?
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:37 AM   #3
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Good question,I run on a track that's brand new and has very little traction.I'll be very interested in answers that are posted.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:11 PM   #4
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I am trying to see what it is like to practice on a race track without traction compound just like what they do at the Tamiya World Championship. Does anybody have any suggestions on what type of settings information to use?

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You're talking rubber tire on carpet?
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Just clean them with Simple Green and let it sit until dry...no traction additive needed, but the tires perform similarly.
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Actually the Tamiya World championship says that you only can use motor spray to clean the tires.Maybe somebody can help me with tire warmer suggestions?
Would the Europeans and maybe the Japanese like to share some good info?
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Actually the Tamiya World championship says that you only can use motor spray to clean the tires.Maybe somebody can help me with tire warmer suggestions?
Would the Europeans and maybe the Japanese like to share some good info?
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Lee,
Use tire warmers and get the tires HOT. No funky setups. It's best to use the can type tire warmers so you can keep them on right up until the end - or use the impossible to find low profile tamiya wrap around tire warmers. I don't have exact temps, but it was pretty damn hot.
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Use tire warmers and get the tires HOT. No funky setups. It's best to use the can type tire warmers so you can keep them on right up until the end - or use the impossible to find low profile tamiya wrap around tire warmers. I don't have exact temps, but it was pretty damn hot.

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I just finished practicing with the tire warmers today.

the first 3 runs i tried 60-65 degrees C about 140 degrees F in the rear and 40 degrees C about 94 degrees F in the front. I would be pretty loose in the beginning but then the car would be really good after the tires warmed up later in the run. later in the day i was told by a professional that i was a over heating the tires so i went 39 degrees C all around but still it was pretty loose in the begging but it still was good after the tires got heated up later in the run. I went from 14.2 as fast lap to 13.6 at the end of the day. i also di some setup and tire adjustments and it helped. Ia m using much more ire warmers with the regular cans not the tire cookers. I pretended that i was running in the Tamiya World Cup qualifers going for tmy best lap for 3 mins. my laps improved every run.

Next run should i try to go up to 80 C all around or much hotter in the back and much cooler in the front? I also saw that newer tires helped grip better in one of the first few runs. I only warmed the tires for 3-10 mins should i go longer?

Any suggestions would be appreciated

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If you overheat a tire it will feel slimy on the track. It sounds like you are starting with the rears too hot and the car starts to hook up better once they cool down into their temp range.
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does anybody have any tips on how to setup a car for carpet using no traction compound. Like for example


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U can test MUCH MORE New insert for carpet
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I found out I was overcooking my tyres before the race. I was using 55deg C on Takeoff 22's, but have dropped to 40deg C and the car is so much better in the early stages of the race.
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