TCS - Thermal Cooling System 1st world review
03-30-2007, 01:51 AM
#1
TCS - Thermal Cooling System 1st world review
Gaz-On has realised the first world review of the TCS – Thermal Cooling System, the new generation of cooling system for brushed motors RC.
The TCS is like PC’ watercooling systems but for our brushed motors RC car ! it’s really new concept in RC world !!!
You will find in this review :
To acces at the review click here !
And to begin ;p :
The TCS is like PC’ watercooling systems but for our brushed motors RC car ! it’s really new concept in RC world !!!
You will find in this review :
To acces at the review click here !
And to begin ;p :
03-30-2007, 04:28 AM
#3
That looks like a really good review...if only i could read it!
03-30-2007, 07:25 AM
#4
Originally Posted by Ian S
That looks like a really good review...if only i could read it!
I have add a link to Babelfish Translate tool at the top of the review for people who don't speak French
It's easy to use, you only copy url review into the tool and it translate you all my review
good read
03-30-2007, 10:40 AM
#5
I tried the babelfish translation but its just as hard to read as french!
03-30-2007, 10:58 AM
#6
that is a clean streetweapon.
03-30-2007, 11:01 AM
#7
Originally Posted by Ian S
I tried the babelfish translation but its just as hard to read as french!
so sorry but I can't translate all my review, it's too hard for my poor english 
03-30-2007, 11:08 AM
#8
Tech Master
And what happens when a hose comes undone? Oh yah wet electronics, and wet racing surface! Soon your speed controller is dead and three other guys in your race broke on your car dumping coolant in the sweeper! Its a neat idea, but not for racing!
Snowy.
Snowy.
03-30-2007, 01:05 PM
#9
Tech Adept
I don't know if the factory coolant is conductive but you can simply run PC nonconductive liquid cooling. No damage done!
03-30-2007, 01:15 PM
#10
While I am not sold on the design of the system......the hoses popping off and frying your electronics is not a very worrysome problem......the amount of liquid is minimal......a shock exploding(which has happened), would have the same chance of frying your gear........and like someone pointed out, you can get non-conductive cooling liquid....PC geeks use it all the time.
The problem I have with the system is how it mounts to the motor.....our cars are heavily designed for the balance of the stuff put inside them. The motor is very heavy and is stragetically placed there for a reason. This thing pushes the motor farther out from center and would seriously throw off the balance...
Years back, Trinity made a motor mount/ heatsink for the XXX-S under the Matt Francis line.....I noticed Matt didn't use it and asked him why....he said it sucked cause it threw the balance of the car off and nothing he did could fix it.....I took it off mine, and suddenly I had no more issues with the car......
This thing is like twice as big as the trinity unit, so the motor is pushed farther out....
So, while I am sure it functions in cooling, I just think it creates a bigger problem that will make the car more difficult to drive.
Later EddieO
The problem I have with the system is how it mounts to the motor.....our cars are heavily designed for the balance of the stuff put inside them. The motor is very heavy and is stragetically placed there for a reason. This thing pushes the motor farther out from center and would seriously throw off the balance...
Years back, Trinity made a motor mount/ heatsink for the XXX-S under the Matt Francis line.....I noticed Matt didn't use it and asked him why....he said it sucked cause it threw the balance of the car off and nothing he did could fix it.....I took it off mine, and suddenly I had no more issues with the car......
This thing is like twice as big as the trinity unit, so the motor is pushed farther out....
So, while I am sure it functions in cooling, I just think it creates a bigger problem that will make the car more difficult to drive.
Later EddieO
03-30-2007, 01:59 PM
#11
i tend to agree with most of what eddieo says, but not in this case....at least not unless cars were marketed for use with specific numbers and types of cells.
we have changed cell types, weights and counts, numerous times under single generations of chassis. pushing the motor out 3/16" has no more effect than going to 5c. sure, maybe you're going to move your receiver to the other side of the chassis or add/remove one of your balance weights.
if the chassis layouts were so impacted by this change that they could not adapt the current configuration with the same performance level, then i would expect we are going to see everyone either go to the hpi (pro3)/losi layout or build chassis' specifically for 4c, 5c, 6c, lipo and li ion.
i do agree that chassis without the flexibility to move/adjust much (ie street weapon) could be adversaly affected by a chance like this. give the nearly 15C +/- change in motor temps, i cannot help but think it might be worthwhile.
we have changed cell types, weights and counts, numerous times under single generations of chassis. pushing the motor out 3/16" has no more effect than going to 5c. sure, maybe you're going to move your receiver to the other side of the chassis or add/remove one of your balance weights.
if the chassis layouts were so impacted by this change that they could not adapt the current configuration with the same performance level, then i would expect we are going to see everyone either go to the hpi (pro3)/losi layout or build chassis' specifically for 4c, 5c, 6c, lipo and li ion.
i do agree that chassis without the flexibility to move/adjust much (ie street weapon) could be adversaly affected by a chance like this. give the nearly 15C +/- change in motor temps, i cannot help but think it might be worthwhile.
03-30-2007, 03:02 PM
#12
The batteries are on a different plane......and changing the overall weight or taking away a cell on most cars is a front to rear adjustment, not a side to side......still changes handling, but not like side to side.....
Do this....cut your battery slots to allow the cells to move out say 3/16.....then run the car.......it would be horrid and hard to get the car to handle the way it was designed.
Or better yet, just put a 3/16 spacer on your motor and go drive it....you won't like the results....
I can't imagine what this would do to a losi.....
Later EddieO
Do this....cut your battery slots to allow the cells to move out say 3/16.....then run the car.......it would be horrid and hard to get the car to handle the way it was designed.
Or better yet, just put a 3/16 spacer on your motor and go drive it....you won't like the results....
I can't imagine what this would do to a losi.....
Later EddieO
03-30-2007, 04:30 PM
#13
it'd probably kill a jrxs or jrxs-r.
03-31-2007, 09:28 AM
#14
Originally Posted by Essnowyt
And what happens when a hose comes undone? Oh yah wet electronics, and wet racing surface! Soon your speed controller is dead and three other guys in your race broke on your car dumping coolant in the sweeper!
04-10-2007, 07:57 AM
#15
Tech Master
Question for TCS rep. or other knowledgable racers,
Based on your understanding of the TCS, does it matter if you have longer tubes (more liquid) or shorter tubes (less liquid) in the system? Or is it insignificant?
Anyone have tried to mount this on an EVO V? Does it fit on the evo V?
Based on your understanding of the TCS, does it matter if you have longer tubes (more liquid) or shorter tubes (less liquid) in the system? Or is it insignificant?
Anyone have tried to mount this on an EVO V? Does it fit on the evo V?
