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Old 03-29-2007, 04:00 AM   #1
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Default Wich one to choose, Brushless

Hello, so with many brushlles motor and speed control ( the fastes one, 3,5 T)in the market wich one will you guy´s choose:

-LRP sphere
- Nosram
- Noval GTB
- tekin
- GM
- Trinity
- Orion
- Mamba
- Mtronicks

Is there anyone that i can use in rain races.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:53 AM   #2
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i would say go for the GTB.

with that being said you also need to take a few things into consideration.

1. What is most popular at your local track?
2. which one is supported by your LHS?
3. are you bashing or racing?
4. are you on-raod or off-road?
5.if you are racing, what is allowed at your track?

hope that helps
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Yes, it is for racing, here all motor is allowed and on-road.

If you use a GTB with 3,5T in a very small track, what gear will you use?
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i currently run the the 3.5R in my MSXX. the recommended gearing for the 3,5R is around 10.7~11.3. you will have to play around with the gearing, checking motor and ESC temps. it must not get too hot.
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Ok thks, is there any speacial treatment that i should do to the brushless.

Can you use other motors with novak gtb, how to know the wires, like GM or vector from lrp?

Do you thing the combo GTB and 3,5T novak is the best.
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i am not sure about which other motors can be used with the GTB.

and i think the GTB and 3.5R is the best fastest combo for on-road touring.
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Personally, I would go for the New LRP/Nosram ISTC Speedo with the Orion Vortex motor

The speedo is very easy to set up and has a great feel...!
The new orion motors are the fastest brushless I have tried so far and they run really cool, thanks to the internal fan!
Also, they almost feels like an brushed motor, very nice and smooth power band
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The Mamba Max system is a excellent choice. One the most adjustable systems on the market. The speedo like many others can run brushed or brushless mode and the speed control is fully adjustable off the computer via the available software they give you.

Lots of systems coming out. Hard to chose thats for sure. The shop I run for sells mainly Castle Creations systems for cars and also for airplane systems. All work great. Shop has done well selling this brand.
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Service is also some thing to consider. The performance and price between the LRP and Novak stuff they're reasonably close to being the same. It's easier to send a bad speedo in for warranty/repair when it's closer.

In the US I've had really good luck with Novak if I have problems. LRP was able to provide support at the track at a big race (Associated hooked me up) but sometimes the mail in service is slow.

By the way, on a small track you'll want to run some thing a little less powerful than a 3.5 turn motor. A 5.5 is the best all around motor that I've found and the 4.5 is faster but harder to drive.
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Personally, I would go for the New LRP/Nosram ISTC Speedo with the Orion Vortex motor
This, in my opinion, is a great combination. I have tested this using the Vortex 7.5 in off-road using the #1 drive profile and -10% throttle exponential and the motors feels like brushed but with more power, more duration, and less maintenance.

The Novak GTB ESC works very well too and has no thermaling issues even with the Vortex 3.5.

FYI, the Vortex has just begun shipping to U.S. customers.
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Maybe a Mamba Max ESC with a Orion Vortex?

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This, in my opinion, is a great combination. I have tested this using the Vortex 7.5 in off-road using the #1 drive profile and -10% throttle exponential and the motors feels like brushed but with more power, more duration, and less maintenance.

The Novak GTB ESC works very well too and has no thermaling issues even with the Vortex 3.5.

FYI, the Vortex has just begun shipping to U.S. customers.
I have tested all top brushless speedos, but I like the LRP the best.
Ease off use, weight and feel is just great with this speedo!

I have only tested inn Touring cars so far, but will start testing inn off-road very soon, whoohooo, can hardly wait to hit the dirt again!!
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But the orion brushless is GM brushless right.

And about the sensor wires of the vortex is it pulg and play with the lrp speedo
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But the orion brushless is GM brushless right.

And about the sensor wires of the vortex is it pulg and play with the lrp speedo
Orion used GM speedos during the development of the motors....
They decided to make motors only.

The Vortex is plug and play with LRP Speedos, no problem at all.
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Ok thks
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