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Old 02-24-2007, 09:31 AM   #31
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So you (FF01) are telling me that your lap times are close when using a 19t with 5 cells compared to a modified with 6 cells?
And ummmmmmmmm yes I do realise laptimes are an important part on how quick you are going.
If the above is true you must be unbelievably bad with a modified motor.
ohh, i think you guys miss my point, 19t 5cells are almost as fast as mod 5cells.
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Old 02-24-2007, 09:35 AM   #32
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I would love to see how fast someone would go with a stock motor from 15 years ago(pre-rebuildable and pre-laydown brushes), compared to stock motors of today.
Speaking with racers from that era they compare today's "stock" motor to the 15 turn mods we ran back then.

And speaking to a local sponsored racer who tried 5 cells in a TC, in order to get the speed he geared way up, like +7 teeth. The car ran just as fast as with 6 cell, but was much harder on the batteries.
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Old 02-24-2007, 09:48 AM   #33
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ohh, i think you guys miss my point, 19t 5cells are almost as fast as mod 5cells.
MISS YOUR POINT....
I am glad I miss your point if you are trying to tell me 19t 5 cells is almost as fast as 7t 5 cells.
You said to me laptimes are important , when you say "close" do you mean close as within 3 seconds per lap.
check your stats again and post your findings
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Old 02-24-2007, 09:49 AM   #34
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Is`nt it just amazing how the Ni-Ml battery matcher`s wish us to change all the rules just so we keep buying their products ?
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Old 02-24-2007, 09:55 AM   #35
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MISS YOUR POINT....
I am glad I miss your point if you are trying to tell me 19t 5 cells is almost as fast as 7t 5 cells.
You said to me laptimes are important , when you say "close" do you mean close as within 3 seconds per lap.
check your stats again and post your findings
have ever test it ?
if you say no, you should not write things like that !
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:03 AM   #36
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I write what I like if its my opinion on a forum.
I know that if you have 5 cells pushing 1.44v per cell = 7.2v then its going to be propelling a car faster with a lower wound motor , basically thats physics , what it will do also is to draw more amps out of those cells which will greatly reduce these cells life.
Test , no I havent tested yet and I will give you grace on that point but also ask you not to claim that Jan Van Steeg of BS in your posting when clearly yours have been inaccurate to say the least.
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:15 AM   #37
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Hi,

I've tested a while ago the difference between 6 cell 19t and 5 cell 19t together with a mod-guy who was running 12t 5 and 6 cell. I was quicker......on a damp track and the feeling was good.....then.

Last week i tried 19t 5 cell on the same but now dry track.....I was glad i brought my Sphere TC with a X11 4.5. I was bored after 3 laps with the 19t (the whole track full throttle and no breaking) and was totaly freaked out when i connected the 4.5....that was racing again, fighting with power, ease on the throttle in the corner and when exiting the bend....max adrenaline.

I'm glad i chose to compete in modified coming season and will take the extra costs for maintenance.....wow, i can't wait until the season starts....

But if you are on a budget, 19t 5 cell is really a competitive class, although the best batteries will raise your budget......imo
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Old 02-24-2007, 12:28 PM   #38
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MISS YOUR POINT....
I am glad I miss your point if you are trying to tell me 19t 5 cells is almost as fast as 7t 5 cells.
You said to me laptimes are important , when you say "close" do you mean close as within 3 seconds per lap.
check your stats again and post your findings
Last years UK KO GP, everyone on 6cell, brushless allowed in Mod;

Fastest Laps

Stock - 16.47s, 2nd 16.67
19t ---- 15.87s, 2nd 15.98
MOD--- 15.01s, 2nd 15.17

Theses times were all by different drivers.
Alright, it's not 5 cell, but the principal is still the same, '3 secs', yeah right, try 1.46 secs per lap between all 3 classes!
No matter how you look at it that is close

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Old 02-24-2007, 01:27 PM   #39
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At nearly every event you race you will have the same , 27t is a certain amount of laps , 19t is 1 lap more and then mod is another lap again.
The point I am making is it was said before that 19t 5 cells was as quick as mod 5 cells which clearly it isnt.
I am sure your stats are correct regarding KO results but over a 5 minute race then it isnt close at all. I dont call 1 lap difference close
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Those people that have tested let them use their fast 5 cell cars against 6 cell/Lipo why try to push a change onto people that dont want it.
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:43 PM   #41
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To tell you the truth I think this thread is a pointless one regarding something that isnt even going to get voted on I hope. All it has done is got people arguing about a needless and pointless discussion.
I'm outa here!!!
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To tell you the truth I think this thread is a pointless one regarding something that isnt even going to get voted on I hope. All it has done is got people arguing about a needless and pointless discussion.
I'm outa here!!!
Well I guess nothing can convince a guy like you right?
The truth is that you have pretty much the same speed with 6-cell and 1500gr and 5-cell and 1350. It works the same for 19t & 27t.
In a hobby where most people have a problem with the handling of there cars, the cost of this great hobby, Iīm baffled there are people who argue this sucks.
But I guess prestige is more important than anything else...
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Old 02-24-2007, 02:33 PM   #43
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Still not convinced , I might try it one year. LOL
I just cant see the need to change from what we already have , its has nothing to do with prestige. Tell me please , how long are the cells expected to last compared to today which isnt actually very long anyway.
(still outa here)
Ps , I've never had a problem with the handling of my car , cant see the relevence either.
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I'm outa here!!!
I know that was horseshit
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Ps , I've never had a problem with the handling of my car , cant see the relevence either.
If you are within 5 sec of Andy Moore in 5 min you are fine. Otherwise not.
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