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Old 09-12-2008, 02:37 PM   #511
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Hello Everyone,

Sorry for the delays in getting back to everyone!! My racing schedule has been nuts the past month +!! Since July 28th, I've only been home 9 days until I returned from the 1/8 Nats on Sept 8th!! Needless to say, I spent some time with Angel and the girls since I have been home and have been getting back going with things here.

Mike - I recieved your order but with me being gone, none of the new oval stuff has been cut yet. I'll get to posting the info on the new cars asap!

MACH - EA qualified 4th and was taken out early in the main. The car was pretty good though being that we missed the first two runs of practice building the car and really couldn't judge the car when EA had a bad motor with a seized bearing. Overall, I was really happy with the car and I think with a little more tuning it could have been even better.... As far as the business partner...lol.. It would have been nice for something that crazy to happen but I've never been caught holding my breathe waiting for something to fall from the sky. We've been talking with other people and have a lot of really good stuff coming down the line with a much better line up for product support/distribution through out the world. I will even let you guys know that I have already recieved a few sample parts of new MOLDED parts from CEFX - Yep, trying to get away from any OEM products in a CEFX kit so as time progresses we will control our own supply and product quality. It's a lot of work but very exciting knowing what's in store for the future.

THeGame is helping is work on an all new web site for CEFX. I have to send him over the price lists today and then everyone will be able to order from the site again as soon as he has time to get everything up and running. Shouldn't be too long now!!
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:10 PM   #512
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EA what servo is that in your Phoenix 10?
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EA what servo is that in your Phoenix 10?
Its a Futaba 9551. I had a 9650 micro servo in there but it felt a little weird at high speed like it didnt have enough torque (which it should have had plenty) and with the car being so light (as you can see all the lead in it) I figured a larger stronger servo couldnt hurt. It did feel better on the track after the swap.

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Old 09-13-2008, 08:47 AM   #514
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hey josh what about those 2 chassis and the cross brace?
hey you told me to remind you... LOL

My stuff is still sitting in my basement hasn't even made it to the shop...

been working since I got back. no rush but I'd like to try and get the stuff by the end of the month so I can start building my cars up for the gate. Maybe I'll actually get some practice in LOL

not racing from may until I showed up at Vegas probably didn't help me much... 2 jobs, a track, and a woman with 2 kids eat up all your time LOL

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:37 AM   #515
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THeGame is helping is work on an all new web site for CEFX. I have to send him over the price lists today and then everyone will be able to order from the site again as soon as he has time to get everything up and running. Shouldn't be too long now!!
Get that site up soon because I want to order both a 12th and 10th onroad car. Josh - Is the new 12th available now?
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Old 09-19-2008, 02:50 AM   #516
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Josh: I'm experiencing some difficulties fitting a brushless motor in my original C12 (first generation). Will the new phoenix rear pod top and bottom graphite plates fit my rear pod? IF these won't fit, any other advice for how to get my brushless motor into this chassis? I have tried dremeling off parts of the graphite on the top plate, but it's still a very tight fit...Thanks.
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Josh: I'm experiencing some difficulties fitting a brushless motor in my original C12 (first generation). Will the new phoenix rear pod top and bottom graphite plates fit my rear pod? IF these won't fit, any other advice for how to get my brushless motor into this chassis? I have tried dremeling off parts of the graphite on the top plate, but it's still a very tight fit...Thanks.
Loosen rear wheel not diff side slide along axle, loosen the screws holding the pod on this side slide motor in. Bit of a pain but fits in fine, check tweak on car. I know this works as thats how a gm brushless is sat in my car
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The difficulties stem not from getting the motor into the pod. That part offers no problems. The difficulties stem from bolting on the motor and at the same time getting adequate space for the wire connectors (which bump into the top plate), as well as getting enough "sliding distance" to fit different size pinions.
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I use 16 gauge wire as thats all you need for 4 cell so no suspension bind there with the gm have no issues with clearance I will post a pic later
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The difficulties stem not from getting the motor into the pod. That part offers no problems. The difficulties stem from bolting on the motor and at the same time getting adequate space for the wire connectors (which bump into the top plate), as well as getting enough "sliding distance" to fit different size pinions.
1/12th manufactures are starting to design/build cars that are more compatible with brushless motors. The problem is not with the cars as much as it is with the motor manufactures. As long as the motor designers continue to put those huge solder lugs on the motors, they will always present problems for 1/12th. You either have to stick the lugs straight up and then they interfere with the body or point them forward and they interfere with the top motor pod plate or cross brass on the chassis.

What I do is cut the lugs off. This was legal at the ROAR indoor carpet nationals as well as the recent IIC Vegas race and was ruled as not altering a stock, hand out motor. I cut the lugs off and leave just enough of the lug to solder a 16ga wire to the motor. This way you can point the lugs forward and they will not interfere with the top plate or chassis cross brace. You may, on some cars, have to relieve the top plate but that is easily done with a dremel and stone. At the IIC I was able to run a 76 spur with a 55 pinion without anything hitting and the motor lugs pointing forward.

If I had a good camera, I could post some pictures but maybe we can get OD to post some close up detail shots.
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ok, here are some different solutions. Sorry I don't have any shots of wiring on a CEFX car, perhaps soon

whoops I don't know what happened to the pics I already posted here. When I made the next post they dissappeared !!??!

I'll try to post them again
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ok, here are some different solutions. Sorry I don't have any shots of wiring on a CEFX car, perhaps soon
What we where looking for was pictures of how much and where you trimed down the solder lugs on a brushless motor. Maybe you have a motor out of the car that you have trimed down the lugs and you can do a close up shot of the motor. Also maybe a shot where the motor, with the trimed down lugs, is installed in a car with the top plate off and the cross brace removed. That is what we are looking for. The pictures you posted don't give us the detail.

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Unfortunately I don't have too many close up shots like you are mentioning. The third pic above is pretty much what you are looking for. Below is a shot of a Novak motor with the tabs trimmed, you can cut the fiberglass backing and shorten the tabs, then bend the tabs back against the can (put some tape on the can so the wires/lugs can't short out)
Never mind the spur gear adaptor
Pretty much all the other brands of motors you just wack the lugs off and leave enough to solder to.

I think this is going to be a moot point soon as all car manufacturers will make their cars brushless friendly (at least as far as installation is concerned)

We can save the discussion of balanced motor pods for another thread
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Erik Aa - The Phoenix was designed with BL motors in mind so the pod is much wider and clearance for all the wires is much, much better. The C12 was never intended for BL. Unfortunetly, there isn't just a top plate and bottom plate for the C12 to fix this. We do sell a Phoenix conversion kit that includes:

Chassis
Bottom Plate
Top Plate
Cross Brace
3 Al. Standoffs
2 rear body posts
T-Bar
Narrow Right Rear Hub

This converts the C12 Evo2 into the Phoenix which was developed specifically for BL racing.

Soon, we'll have a new web site up and running where you will be able to order anything you need.

MACH - The new 1/12 and 1/10 will be available when the new site is launched.

Skeen - Don't worry... You are on my list to take care of!!!
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