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Old 02-02-2007, 04:39 AM
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Missing since sometime in 2005. If spotted please return to [email protected]

Also missing since the 2006 buggy worlds - Innovative buggy design. If you see a car which does not have saddle packs and a mid-motor please contact [email protected]

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e-mail adress doesn`t work;-)

schumacher`s new mi3 looks pretty innovative.
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At least if something is copied it's less likely to be breaking or it wouldnt be worth copying, lol
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i agree that the mi3 is certainly something new and innovative. the rest... well... yea.. the email address doesn't work.
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Originally Posted by sosidge
Missing since sometime in 2005. If spotted please return to [email protected]

Also missing since the 2006 buggy worlds - Innovative buggy design. If you see a car which does not have saddle packs and a mid-motor please contact [email protected]

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You know Tamiya doesn't belong there...they invented on-road so they ARE the innovators that everyone else copied. That and I think you need to look at the entire line from the TT01 and TL01 to the M03 and M04 chassis on through the TA05 and TRF415s. More chassis, more options, more price ranges. Tamiya is the only company that has something for everybody.
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TTech Predator X10(nuff said)
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How long will it take before a Mi3 inspired Xray is out?
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I would love to hear specifically what someone thinks is innovative in RC cars (specific tech) since 2000...

DROOP screws.. thats about the most innovative thing I can think of.

I had just about everything else prior to that ... even most of the materials...

Its hard to re-invent the wheel.

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Show me a Formula 1 car that doesn't look the same, show me an ALS car that doesnt look the same. The reason being is that designers will eventually gravitate toward the most efficient design possible to achieve the same goal. The differences are in the refinement. Now, if you change the operating parameters of the design, you will see different design teams come up with differing ways to tackle the new problem. The bigger the change in operating parameters, ie track size, grip levels, power level, component dimension change, the bigger the change in design teams

There is a reason why wheels are round. The team that came up with the traingular wheel, the team that came up with the square wheel, the team that came up with the hexagonal wheel, all decided that the team with the round wheel had the most efficient design and the all started using that.
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Originally Posted by Jack Smash
Show me a Formula 1 car that doesn't look the same, show me an ALS car that doesnt look the same. The reason being is that designers will eventually gravitate toward the most efficient design possible to achieve the same goal. The differences are in the refinement. Now, if you change the operating parameters of the design, you will see different design teams come up with differing ways to tackle the new problem. The bigger the change in operating parameters, ie track size, grip levels, power level, component dimension change, the bigger the change in design teams

There is a reason why wheels are round. The team that came up with the traingular wheel, the team that came up with the square wheel, the team that came up with the hexagonal wheel, all decided that the team with the round wheel had the most efficient design and the all started using that.
Uh...F1 and ALS both REQUIRE the cars to be the same so that the racing is competitive.
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Originally Posted by muahdib4
Uh...F1 and ALS both REQUIRE the cars to be the same so that the racing is competitive.
No, there are guideline rules, but the cars themselves are NOT the same between manufacturers. Within the guideline rules there are many, many differences between the cars.

As Jack Smash said, eventually after enough iterations of development racing cars will gravitate towards a similar design based on their outside parameters. Look at 1/8th scale off road, 1/8th on road, 1/12th scale and just about any class that has been raced a long time, they all look pretty darn close. Its not from lack of effort on the teams part, but in design there are just things that work and just don't work, and through a natural selection process just about everyone comes up with pretty close to the same design.
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Originally Posted by psbarger
No, there are guideline rules, but the cars themselves are NOT the same between manufacturers. Within the guideline rules there are many, many differences between the cars.

As Jack Smash said, eventually after enough iterations of development racing cars will gravitate towards a similar design based on their outside parameters. Look at 1/8th scale off road, 1/8th on road, 1/12th scale and just about any class that has been raced a long time, they all look pretty darn close. Its not from lack of effort on the teams part, but in design there are just things that work and just don't work, and through a natural selection process just about everyone comes up with pretty close to the same design.
The Chassis are required to be within certain guidelines forcing them to be almost exactly the same. Engines, trannys and so on are different.
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4 tires, check
4 shocks, check
4 arms, check

Wishing people would stop starting the same thread to complain about something they dont understand, check.....
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Originally Posted by DavidAlford
4 tires, check
4 shocks, check
4 arms, check

Wishing people would stop starting the same thread to complain about something they dont understand, check.....
True, the only really different chassis being raced on a regular basis world wide in R/C on-road is the M03 and M04 chassis.
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Originally Posted by muahdib4
True, the only really different chassis being raced on a regular basis world wide in R/C on-road is the M03 and M04 chassis.

And the JRXS, and soon to be JRXS Type-R.
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