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Old 02-05-2007, 05:16 PM   #91
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Two completely different situations. Fuel tanks aren't getting bigger and therefore supplying more hp to the engine.
Poor logic. We are getting more HP in nitro but the effect is quite the opposite of what happens with these advances in electric. Our mileage decreases. Rare are the days where you can make 5 minutes on a tank of fuel.

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This is a thread about the GP4600. It's a NiMH cell. It exists whether you like it or not. I just want to hear from anyone that has seen these cells in real life.
There were a few of them in Nuremburg

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Poor logic. We are getting more HP in nitro but the effect is quite the opposite of what happens with these advances in electric. Our mileage decreases. Rare are the days where you can make 5 minutes on a tank of fuel.



There were a few of them in Nuremburg

http://www.modelling-news.com/2007/n...mb/49011gp.jpg
Yep, and even though battery capacity increases...5 minute run times are hard to make in Mod which is why the big debate on going to 4-5 cell...so it's impossible to finish a mod 5 minute race.
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I can't help but feel there are people in this thread that are the same people that would go into a Dell PC forum and tell people they are stupid for not buying a Mac...

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Old 02-06-2007, 04:57 AM   #96
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Is that green stuff legal? lol
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I can't help but feel there are people in this thread that are the same people that would go into a Dell PC forum and tell people they are stupid for not buying a Mac...

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Are these 4600 physically bigger or heavier or both ???


they could be `old` 4300 with 4600 heat shrink
who know`s they night trying wind IB up to make another & another
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Looks like they are slightly larger and heavier from the samples sent to EFRA.

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The only batteries that even need discussion are LiPo. The rest are simply dead and/or dieing.
So why don't you open new thread on how great lipo is. I am happy for you that your lipo cells work for you and that you have spend your money in a wise way. Now please let me decide on how I want too spend my money and if I want to buy these batteries and what to have information on these cells, I certainly don't need to read all this trash on lipo which this thread is not about.

Now to my question. Is there any release date for these cells?

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So why don't you open new thread on how great lipo is. I am happy for you that your lipo cells work for you and that you have spend your money in a wise way. Now please let me decide on how I want too spend my money and if I want to buy these batteries and what to have information on these cells, I certainly don't need to read all this trash on lipo which this thread is not about.

Now to my question. Is there any release date for these cells?

Thank you,

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It's a thread on batteries right??? You want to compare the battery to others right??? Well, LiPo are other batteries right??? They are comparable right??? It's also a public forum right??? Ok then.
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Word to your mother..

I love LiPos.
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It's a thread on batteries right??? You want to compare the battery to others right??? Well, LiPo are other batteries right??? They are comparable right??? It's also a public forum right??? Ok then.
see post #94
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After looking at the specs on the BRCA cell approval I will assume that GP is doing the same trick as they did when they released the 4300. This is to release a higher mAh shrink with the actual cells not being up to capacity and then improve it as time goes by. The cells they submitted weigh the same as the 4300s submitted but they give a 68/72 gram range on the spec sheet of the cell but cells submitted are 69 grams. This means they don't have the ability to make the capacity yet or they could be using a 1c rate to label this cell. A cell will have a higher capacity when discharged at a low amp rate like 4.6 amps.


For all you Lipo lovers I understand that they give you good results and that they seem like they will be the way of the future but this is not good for racing and can ruin electric racing. The reason I'm saying this is because I have been actively testing Lipos and I can see a difference in performance and changes being made frequently. I have tested packs from leading manufacturers and they range from 7.06 to 7.28 in average voltage and 12.0 to 8.6 in IR at 35amps. SMC is working closely with a manufacturer of Lipos and we have seen that they can improve there packs fairly frequently and once Lipos become legal for racing I'm pretty sure we can get the manufacturers to make special Lipos suited for racing with more power. This will most likely be at the expense of reliability and price but in the end racers will buy the best and most powerful Lipo pack so it will be the same issues as NiMH and probably worse.
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