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Old 01-30-2007, 04:51 PM   #121
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one more small question (due to my poor understanding of mechanics),

how do you change the shock angles on this car?

hehe waiting for pics with the anti-roll bars on it too!

Thanks for the explanations!
look at the pictures there are a few mounting holes on the towers
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:58 PM   #122
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By looking at the pictures of the MI3, can you be serious to ask those questions. This car was built from the ground up by Schumacher and iin no way, shape, or form resembles an MI2 EC. The only that are transferable to the new kit from the MI2 EC are:

Steering block
castor blocks
Arms( New arms will have new holes for sway bars, so old arms might be useless)
ball cups
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diffs( But like Pw stated earlier, the new MI3 diff will have locked rings which will allow you to run a looser diff without it slipping).
I think you mis-understood his question..
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:03 PM   #123
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Will the diff mounts and motor mount be anodised purple? It already looks sweet as is
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:07 PM   #124
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By looking at the pictures of the MI3, can you be serious to ask those questions. This car was built from the ground up by Schumacher and iin no way, shape, or form resembles an MI2 EC. The only that are transferable to the new kit from the MI2 EC are:

Steering block
castor blocks
Arms( New arms will have new holes for sway bars, so old arms might be useless)
ball cups
turnbuckles
shocks
springs
diffs( But like Pw stated earlier, the new MI3 diff will have locked rings which will allow you to run a looser diff without it slipping).

I think you didn´t get my point Alex. I can very clearly see the obvious changes on the car, like lower CG, different parts used and so on....

I was asking about other major changes on the geometry like narrower wheelbase, different angles of shock position compared to the EC, difference in weight distribution left-right, front-rear and so on..., battery moved foreward or backward compared to the EC.....

Just the changes which one cannot figure out from the pics only.

Maybe you get it right this time............
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:08 PM   #125
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from speaking with paul and adrian it is quite different.
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I think you didn´t get my point Alex. I can very clearly see the obvious changes on the car, like lower CG, different parts used and so on....

I was asking about other major changes on the geometry like narrower wheelbase, different angles of shock position compared to the EC, difference in weight distribution left-right, front-rear and so on..., battery moved foreward or backward compared to the EC.....

Just the changes which one cannot figure out from the pics only.

Maybe you get it right this time............
The wheelbase and battery position is the same as on the EC...it works very well.

The width of the car can be anything from 190mm until the the drive shafts bottom out in the drive cups arount 185mm.

As far as suspension geomerty the general dimensions of the lower arms are the same as on the EC but everything else (roll center, camber link angle and length, etc...) is unlimited.

The shock angle range is the same as on the EC (whick works quite well) but the towers have 1/2 holes in them so you have finer adjustments.

The Mi2EC is one of the best handling sedans available today. The Mi3 starts where the Mi2EC leaves off and has the capability to go even faster.
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The inner camber link blocks come off with one screw per side. Its really easy to change anything you want.

As far as suspension geomerty the general dimensions of the lower arms are the same as on the EC but everything else (roll center, camber link angle and length, etc...) is unlimited.

The shock angle range is the same as on the EC (whick works quite well) but the towers have 1/2 holes in them so you have finer adjustments.

The Mi2EC is one of the best handling sedans available today. The Mi3 starts where the Mi2EC leaves off and has the capability to go even faster.
This is the kind of answer I can appreciate, thanks Adrian
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:16 PM   #128
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This is the kind of answer I can appreciate, thanks Adrian
I edited my post to better answer your questions.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:27 PM   #129
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it may look the part but i dont know about you guys when you look a the photos do youfeel you wanna stick a random piece of ally on your self it looks to me they have sifted through the pot of bits and come up with the mi3.

we shall have to wait and see if its any good when the average racers get hold of it.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:34 PM   #130
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My only question is when will Jason "MO" Moberly be getting one so he can start racing again??
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PW or Adrian: Hows the weight of the MI3? With or without electronics.

Looks like a solid car.
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I think you didn´t get my point Alex. I can very clearly see the obvious changes on the car, like lower CG, different parts used and so on....

I was asking about other major changes on the geometry like narrower wheelbase, different angles of shock position compared to the EC, difference in weight distribution left-right, front-rear and so on..., battery moved foreward or backward compared to the EC.....

Just the changes which one cannot figure out from the pics only.

Maybe you get it right this time............
Whoops!! Sorry about that man. I was doing hw and reading the thread at the same time. Not a very good idea. I edited my post and it shows an actual answer to your question. Sorry If i came off as an A$$.
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it looks to me they have sifted through the pot of bits and come up with the mi3.
We can accept constructive criticism and doubts about handling, but that quote couldn't be further from the truth

Just to let everyone know...The arms in the photo are from the Mi2 and the Mi3 will have updated arms
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:50 PM   #134
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is it easier then it looks to get shims under the inner camber link loc for roll centre adjustment
or does it look diffulcult & fumbly like in the pic
To me, it looks like you detatch the purple aluminum camber link piece from the bulkhead (very easy to do), and change the shimming then.
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The spacing for camber and track width is very straight forward and easy, but I will admit roll-center spacing is a little more fumbly
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