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Old 01-30-2007, 11:47 PM   #181
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cool car!

since the upper deck is so short, why not just skip it and have a 1-piece front to rear bulkhead?
The total lack of flex might pose a slight issue, just a guess?
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:12 AM   #182
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It's interesting that Schumacher and Corally are going with an extremely short topdeck while XRay is praising the virtues of making it as long as possible. Two very different approaches, with both sides giving reasons for why their style is superior. As the chassis on these cars get more similar, I wonder if we'll start referring to them as "short topdeck" and "long topdeck" cars to make a distinction about how they handle. Are we seeing a fork in sedan design theory, kind of like shaft vs. belt?
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:22 AM   #183
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This car looks great. Very innovative design.



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I think the only stop the Schumacher car hasn't pulled out is to have all the carbon fiber preped out of the box (ie. beveled battery slots, rounded edges, maybe even sealed etc). Would it cost a significant amount of $$$ to do this. Also from all the potential buyers wondering if this is something we'd all like to see and be willing to pay a few more bucks for? Don't see any car companies doing this yet...
who's interested?
I'm curious about the additional cost of this also. I'd pay a few more $$$ if the chassis had the battery slots precisely beveled and the edges smoothed and sealed.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:31 AM   #184
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I dunno if this has already been mentioned, but it looks to me like the diff can be removed with only 2 screws! Quite impressive to say the least. Is there a servo saver built into that bell crank at all? Lovely car certainly, looks like Schumacher actually spent some time fine tuning the astestics of this car as well as the handling.

Edit-Says 2 screws right in description of the car...
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:44 AM   #185
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To me, it looks like you detatch the purple aluminum camber link piece from the bulkhead (very easy to do), and change the shimming then.

so you undo 2 things to get a shim in under that link !!Yes??
purple thing off bulkhead then ball stud undo from purple thngy !!

And you got to bevel your own slots for the batts !!!!

should of got Jason @BMI to help you with a few pointers in the PR side
protc3 chassis are realy well sorted


dedicated spur made by one company just for one car !!! not liking that idea

monopoly & price & availability comes to mind here
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:18 AM   #186
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the car looks amazing... now all it needs is a different chassis and top deck and itl be ready for carpet.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:25 AM   #187
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the car looks amazing... now all it needs is a different chassis and top deck and itl be ready for carpet.
It was mentioned earlier that it's more rigid than a T2'007 carpet spec with all the screws in. Apparently the CF they use is stronger or something. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:28 AM   #188
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i must have missed that info.. well then i guess it should kick some ass pretty much every where then.. it is just too cool how the adjustability on this car is infinate.. really able to fine tune it.
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so you undo 2 things to get a shim in under that link !!Yes??
purple thing off bulkhead then ball stud undo from purple thngy !!

And you got to bevel your own slots for the batts !!!!

should of got Jason @BMI to help you with a few pointers in the PR side
protc3 chassis are realy well sorted


dedicated spur made by one company just for one car !!! not liking that idea

monopoly & price & availability comes to mind here
So your gonna complain that you have to undo two screws to change the inner camber link position? Wow....then at least you gotta be happy the diffs only take two screws instead of four like most cars

beveling batteries? Wow people now-a-days are spoiled. You don't have to. People will spend 14hours painting a body that'll last a month but it's a pain to spend 2hours doing battery slots on a chassis that lasts at least a year.

Special spur? Remember the xxx-s? Not a new thing
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:42 AM   #190
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PW: does the Mi3 have the same drivetrain as the Mi2? will we still be able to use the old belts? cant wait for its release like my avatar
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Bulkheads look like Hudy/Cyclone design....

T2 rollcenter wannabee in purple alu....

Tricked out steering though
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syndr0me - To be honest it just packaging. It just has to be the size it is given the other design criteria like LiPo compatability and tweak resistance. I suspect the lenght of the 007 top deck is also just because it worked out that way.

Checmical X - The price increase for beveled edges and cell slots would be BIG. Schumacher replacement chassis cost about 2/3 the cost of a BMI chassis. BMI puts an amazing amount of time inot each chassis and this is just not practical for production.

Mr. Jolly - The camber link really is easy to get to and the massive increase in tuning options outweighs the need to take one extra step to undo one screw.

BMI is a low volume premium quality chassis maker. They spend some much time on each chassis I have no idea if they make any money selling them. I know we would have to triple the cost of our carbon parts to do what BMI does. It a time where everyone is complaing about expensive sedans I think we made the right call.

The spur gear is what it is. We set out to make the best car possible. Including the ability to use standard gears would have increased rotating mass, reduced suspension width (track) options and caused problems with a host of other related parts of the car.

The RW gears are $5.99. They are extremely strong, last a really long time and we will have plenty on had at all times.

rbboy - The belts are the same.
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Bulkheads look like Hudy/Cyclone design....

T2 rollcenter wannabee in purple alu....

Tricked out steering though
Well...you got 1 out of 3 right...look at the pics again.

Bulkheads - The Mi3 bulkheads are new open design parts with no bearing caps like other cars. You do not have to move the shock towers or camber links to get at the diff. The T2 and Cyclone cannot do this.

Roll Center - Like the T2 the you can make changes in track width but where the T2 is limited to 2 blocks to change roll center the Mi3 has a 2 piece suspension mount that allows unlimited roll center adjustment.

Steering - The new steering system is amazing. We havent begun to really show what it can do yet.
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Wow, car looks nice ...may be a very busy cruising year this year for me
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dedicated spur made by one company just for one car !!! not liking that idea
Dont worry....PRS will have gears available soon after its release as well. So there wont be a monopoly on them.... Besides if there was RW gears are great and not very expensive either.

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