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Old 02-02-2007, 05:26 PM   #406
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Every TCS race I went to I spent at least as much money as when I would on a big race for my standard touring car.

SOme TCS classes might be cheaper than others but even back in 1996 I ran a TA03 David Jun edition and they where not cheap and now guys do run the TA05 but many run the 415 and I see nothing cheap about these cars. Great cars but just not cheap.

When I raced some of those so called spec classes and some of the cars Adrian mentioned I spent more money than I do now with my top of the line touring car. All the guys I raced spec with also spent tons of money trying to go faster. More tires and even more motors and batteries trying to find one good one.
The TRF415 is only allowed in 1 (GT1 leaving GT2,GT3, Mini and F103GT and SPEC) class so there aren't that many people running them. The TA05 at under $300 FULLY hopped up ($150 out of the box and still competitive) is still over $100 cheaper than any of the High-end tourers (and just as good). A fully hopped up Mini is around $200 and the F103GT is about the same and that's HALF the price of any of the High-end cars. Tires, Motors and Batteries don't count because those exact same expenses go along with the high-end cars. So I don't really see your point. We are talking about cost of the chassis not the extras. Tamiya makes a range of cars for everybody...not just the guy wanting to drop $400 on a chassis alone and that's what we were discussing. Of course Adrian wouldn't admit that a TA05 cheapie will outperform all those other cars...wouldn't want people to realize they don't actually have to spend so much.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:33 PM   #407
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You don't actually think the TA05 is just as good as any other tourer out there do you? If you are referring to parking lot and local racers, sure, but if you mean on a higher level such as with the other "high end" touring cars you mention the TA05 can't compete.......

You don't see a TA05 MR edition do you?


I do agree though...Tamiya has the broadest line of cars available..from a Hornet (my 1st car) to the TRF 415.21 MSX MR WC .2345!!
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:09 PM   #408
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That's kind of a sideways compliment but coming from a competitive company....that's about the best it'll get.

Don't care what anyone else says or how many times I don't agree with you...you're still alright.
It wasn't meant to be a sideways comment. You guys all need to understand that there is very little to no antimosity among most manufacturers. Most of us are very good friends with people at other companies.

All of us managment guys work together on projects. We have beers together after long days at trade shows, etc. The drivers are the same. Heck, at some point almost everyone was a team mate with everyone else
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It wasn't meant to be a sideways comment. You guys all need to understand that there is very little to no antimosity among most manufacturers. Most of us are very good friends with people at other companies.

All of us managment guys work together on projects. We have beers together after long days at trade shows, etc. The drivers are the same. Heck, at some point almost everyone was a team mate with everyone else
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You don't see a TA05 MR edition do you?
I doubt you ever will, simply because if he does race the car and show that it is a competent as the 415, Tamiya will have all sorts of problems trying the sell the 415 at 3 times the price of the TA05.
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:33 PM   #411
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UM Hey Barry how did you break your hand again? which driverstand did you punch?
You are absolutly correct on that one.......it was at Speed World hobbies.....I was being a BABY and not acting grown up during that weekend...it was just a bad weekend on and off the track...alot of anger was built up and I snapped(atleast it wasnt on a person)....but you know what I am MAN enough to say that and it has definatly changed my outlook on racing.....sometimes people make mistakes...which in that case it was a huge mistake by mypart..by learning by mistakes that is showing that you have grown alitte...And beleive me...I have learned alot....Since then Racing has been alot of fun for me...and I think it shows...

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Who's excited for the Birds'? What's everyones prediction? (Lemieux for Mod/19, Dumas for 1/12 mod)
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Sounds like maybe Toso will be running a Phi at the birds.
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I wish it were possible to get threads back on topic..... LOL!!

Gonna start a thread "How to keep a thread on topic!"

Maybe have Barry come by and keep it in line....
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I wish it were possible to get threads back on topic..... LOL!!

Gonna start a thread "How to keep a thread on topic!"

Maybe have Barry come by and keep it in line....
Naw he is eating cheetos and not watching porn...lol... What up Butt Nut.....
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Naw he is eating cheetos and not watching porn...lol... What up Butt Nut.....

LOL!! What up Bitter? How's the left coast treating you? You coming to the Birds or you strictly an asphalt assasin?
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LOL!! What up Bitter? How's the left coast treating you? You coming to the Birds or you strictly an asphalt assasin?
You know it..its all good out west ..How is tornado alley..
Waiting for the RROC ..you coming ?
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You are absolutly correct on that one.......it was at Speed World hobbies.....I was being a BABY and not acting grown up during that weekend...it was just a bad weekend on and off the track...alot of anger was built up and I snapped(atleast it wasnt on a person)....but you know what I am MAN enough to say that and it has definatly changed my outlook on racing.....sometimes people make mistakes...which in that case it was a huge mistake by mypart..by learning by mistakes that is showing that you have grown alitte...And beleive me...I have learned alot....Since then Racing has been alot of fun for me...and I think it shows...

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You know it..its all good out west ..How is tornado alley..
Waiting for the RROC ..you coming ?
Hellz yeah homie......love that race....hopefully I can avoid getting attacked again every qual. by the Tamiya ninja clan!

LOL!!!!
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Hellz yeah homie......love that race....hopefully I can avoid getting attacked again every qual. by the Tamiya ninja clan!

LOL!!!!
Cool Cool as long as you make it out of your resort you should be fine..I had a coulpe of bustas in my heat than off to the resort..With all the new rides coming out it otta be good one for sure.See ya soon..
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