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Old 01-16-2007, 06:01 AM   #31
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I've owned a tc3, b4, and a t4. Never been a fan of the shocks.
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:34 AM   #32
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VCS2 Shocks leak??? i rebuild my shocks like twice a year... and most of the time its just cause i need something to do and want to "freshen" up the car... built right the VCS2 shocks are very durable... and they don't experience the "floating shaft" that the tamiya units do...
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:38 AM   #33
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I have never had any problems with any shocks..except the older shuie ones..
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:44 AM   #34
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What's "floating shaft". Is that rebound? I had the TRF shocks and they were the stuff.
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And unfortunate that they are carrying the VCF2 shocks over from FTTC4. They still leak, doesn't matter what you do. Versus the Tamiya TRF shocks, just not there. I get one more lap in with my hopped up TA05 than my FTTC4 in the same class at my club. That is 16 to 17 seconds faster in a 5 minutes race.

You obviously can't drive then.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:33 PM   #36
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I've had both, I'll say that the TA05 was a lap or two faster than the TC4 for my application, but I think there's more to it then just the shocks. Notice that I said "my application", I mean no disrespect for the TC4. Everyone remain calm.
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I love fanboys. They're the 'special' types that would complain that a new airplane that comes out "still" has 2 wings and a tail.

Form follows function boys and girls. Form follows function...
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I love fan boys. They're the 'special' types that would complain that a new airplane that comes out "still" has 2 wings and a tail.

Form follows function boys and girls. Form follows function...
Somewhat true, But then again look at what Losi attempted with their TC, It may not have been an instant success but the new "R" looks very promising, My point is that Associated has been an innovator and not a follower, Xray has moved on from the design that Associated has chosen, Look at the cars that have come out in the past year or so, Mid motor designs that seem to work well, I guess we will wait and see if their gamble will pay off, With TC's at over $400 and your "new" car looks a lot like another manufactures "old" car it generally does not sell well. I know that Associated will sell a few (just like the FT TC4) but how many will you see at the race tracks 3 months after the release date? I guess I expected more from Associated.
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What's "floating shaft". Is that rebound? I had the TRF shocks and they were the stuff.
not saying the Tamiya Shocks are bad, I havent ran a set since before the bodies came threaded and they were indeed super smooth... by "floating shaft" i mean the ability of the body/seal system to keep the shaft conentric with the body and shaft movement as close to a parallel plane with the load direction. if you extend the shaft on a tamiya shock and wiggle it you'll see what i mean...
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Xray has moved on from the design that Associated has chosen,
unless the new AE car is going to be an FK05 or a T2 or whatever EXACTLY in AE packaging, this statement has no truth... a few millimeters or tenths on certain parts could be the difference in a completely new design... If you've ever gotten to see the new prototype up close, you'd know that it is its own design that just happens to draw on some ideas and technology that is obviously mainstream and proven.

Also... even though xray has "moved" on to "better" designs as you say, doesnt mean anything they release thats new is "better" or "faster" ... new doesn't mean better, just different... personally i think xray could do some good for a new design by car looking at some of the better points of their older cars...
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