R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-07-2007, 04:35 PM   #1
Tech Master
 
Dasupacat1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 1,372
Trader Rating: 25 (96%+)
Send a message via MSN to Dasupacat1
Default New Trinity 4200 cell ..no voltage?

Damn I just got a new 4 cell match trinity 4cell IB4200 and soldered it up. Today I went to equalize before charging and my DPD read no voltage on the 2nd cell. I confirmed with my dig. voltmeter. This sucks. Anybody ever have this happen with their Trinity pack or any other pack form another matcher? I never even got to use this pack.

Last edited by Dasupacat1; 01-07-2007 at 06:35 PM.
Dasupacat1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2007, 07:34 PM   #2
Tech Addict
 
Superkarter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Scarborough Australia
Posts: 630
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

it's not unusual for these new 4200's to die. Just ask where ever you bought it from to replace that cell.
Superkarter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2007, 07:54 PM   #3
Tech Regular
 
Timmy Heiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Iraq
Posts: 419
Default

They are having some problems with the newest batch of cells. I'm not sure what Trinity will do about, I would suggest contacting them.
Timmy Heiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2007, 08:14 PM   #4
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,570
Trader Rating: 19 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to teammidget lilB
Default

just call trinity im sure they will help u out the recent batches havent been the best
__________________
Bryan "Lil B" Ford

U.S. Army @ Camp Humphreys, South Korea
teammidget lilB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2007, 10:00 PM   #5
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Grand Haven, MI
Posts: 702
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

I got a couple 4200 packs and have the same results
You pretty much have to rematch and weed out the bad cells every week

It sucks

Last edited by Sean B.; 01-07-2007 at 10:14 PM.
Sean B. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 03:14 AM   #6
Tech Master
 
Dasupacat1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 1,372
Trader Rating: 25 (96%+)
Send a message via MSN to Dasupacat1
Default

Well I emailed Trinity on the subject. If they don't help me out.... Never buying their batts again.
Dasupacat1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 03:20 AM   #7
Tech Elite
 
sosidge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Bristol, UK
Posts: 3,865
Default

Try giving the pack a slow charge - sometimes that will bring a cell back to life, not every IB that drops to 0V is dead.
sosidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 05:32 AM   #8
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: north-west Indiana
Posts: 747
Trader Rating: 18 (100%+)
Default

I can't help it, I have to reply. Isn't the reason we pay top dollar for matched packs is so we don't have to worry about a bad cell? After all, matching is supposed to weed out weaker cells.
trilerian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 07:14 AM   #9
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 308
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

In this case i wouldnt blame the matcher. Its not their fault IB self discharge this fast...

I do think they should put some kind of date stamp. This way the customer would know what he is buying.

Its good for the matchers too, because they are usually blamed for cells that have been on the shop shelf for months.

just my .2
Itchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 08:30 AM   #10
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 210
Default

I bought a SMC pack and it had a dead cell..
SMC replaced it no problem. I'm sure trinity would do the same.

Unfortunate thing was the track where I bought the pack wouldn't help me out at all so I had to pay $10 to ship the pack... I think whomever sold the pack should handle it. But I understand why they don't who knows what the buyer could have done with the pack...

My DPD is very sensitive and annoying..

I will put a pack in and it will say bettery error or whatever and then I will flip it around and it will work fine!?

You could also try charging the pack and see if the cell comes back to life... But if the MM is reading 0.0 than I guess its dead..

If I had done my proper research and seen how fragile these NIMH Cells are I would have gone lipo...

Admin: edited for language. please watch this in the future

Me Edit: Whoa no swearing on this forum wh00ps..

Last edited by mcgmark; 01-08-2007 at 05:42 PM.
mcgmark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 08:32 AM   #11
Tech Fanatic
 
Tpg racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 967
Default

Wow I do hear a lot of problem with the newer generation cells.....

As a budget racer, I would rather want something that is reliable and robust like those GP3300 eventhough I have to sacrifice power....

Hopefully battery manufacturers would make newer cells that would last longer...

Just my 2 cents...
Tpg racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 08:43 AM   #12
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,121
Trader Rating: 32 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to A. Rhodes
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgmark
You could also try charging the pack and see if the cell comes back to life... But if the MM is reading 0.0 than I guess its dead..
I had a similar issue with one of my packs this week. One cell came up 0.0 on my CTXD2. I was able to put three cycles through it while at the track, and the cell did come back to life, and was able to hold a good charge & voltage after the 2nd cycle.

Just becuase the cell shows 0.0V does not always mean they are dead, but cycling them might not bring them back to life either. It is hit and miss sometimes.

Another way to check to see if the cell is truely dead, even after cycling the pack, is to charge it through a CTXD2, if you have one. If that cell shows higher voltage than the rest of the pack when charging, it is either weak or dead, and should be replaced. If you do try the above method, make sure you hook up your CTXD to a seperate power supply than the charger.
__________________
Retired from RC....
Quantum - St. Croix - Bass Pro Shops - XPS - Rapala
A. Rhodes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 09:01 AM   #13
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Grand Haven, MI
Posts: 702
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Does anyone make a good cell anymore?
I mean sure the IB's are great and all ... for the first few runs
But most people who don't get free packs can't afford to buy new ones every month.

I'm actually surprised that this is not more of a hot topic
Even more surprised that the 4200's are as popular as they are
because they are JUNK
Sean B. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 09:17 AM   #14
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 210
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean B.
Does anyone make a good cell anymore?
I mean sure the IB's are great and all ... for the first few runs
But most people who don't get free packs can't afford to buy new ones every month.

I'm actually surprised that this is not more of a hot topic
Even more surprised that the 4200's are as popular as they are
because they are JUNK
I think aslong as you treat these packs with the respect and maintenance they deserve you shouldn't have a problem..
mcgmark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 09:30 AM   #15
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Warren, Michigan
Posts: 37
Send a message via AIM to Mark A.
Default

Dasupacat1

I am sorry to hear about that. Not just Trinity but all the matchers have been fighting with the IB cell, the batches of cells have not been consistant.
Contact Trinity thought there website, they online support help though email.
In the furture when you run IB packs put about 300 seconds back into them if you only race once a week. You might have got a pack that your hobby shop had sitting for a long period of time so that might have been the cause to. Most matchers are putting charge back into the packs after they match them to prevent this. I am sure Trinity will help out. Just send them a detailed message on your concern. Thanks for using Trinity products.

Regards,

Mark Adams
Mark A. is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
6 cell; six cell batt packs 4300 and 4200 jkas10 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 12 06-10-2008 12:13 PM
4 cell 4200 and 5-6 cell 4600 loopedout R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 15 04-24-2008 10:40 AM
FS Trinity Vis-Pro 4200 6 cell pack Bigedmond R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 3 04-15-2006 08:12 AM
NEW SMC IB3800 4-cell packs 1.205+ Voltage!! rayhuang R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 10 12-01-2005 08:06 PM
**HIGH VOLTAGE SMC 6 cell battery's** racingkd R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 11-12-2005 05:45 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 05:37 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net