R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-11-2003, 09:02 AM   #121
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Washington state
Posts: 962
Default

Great coverage futureal! Thanks for doing it.

Seems all of this milling work doesn't provide an advantage unless you purposely want to lose weight in order to redistribute it elsewhere, a la steel bottom cover on the Losi.
coolrcdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2003, 02:32 PM   #122
Moderator
 
StephenSobottka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 3,267
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to StephenSobottka
Default

Jeff C- No problemo on the HP. You had a way better chance of making the show than I did at the time, but that 4th round my X was a rocket. Just had some unfortunate luck. I still had tons of fun this weekend. I'm already looking forward to the norrca nats.

Shane- Great job covering the race, you didn't do too bad for having to be doing all of this updating all the time. Congrats for keepin the people informed.

Ax5B(Brian)- Yep it was dialed at trackside, I now know what i need to do for high traction racing
__________________
~~Stephen Sobottka~~
SMC Racing
StephenSobottka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2003, 11:47 PM   #123
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10
Default SpeedMerchant V-Force Front End

Just checked out the SpeedMerchant web site, and they have a pic of their new front end. It looks like they're going to call it the "V-Force". Looks pretty cool, but can't tell much from the pic. Hopefully, they give some more info. soon.
http://www.teamspeedmerchant.com/
Rev.3 Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2003, 07:10 AM   #124
Tech Master
 
stormperson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: MA
Posts: 1,185
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to stormperson
Default

bruce should probably be posting the info soon, however i have seen this front end in person and talked to the guys who have been testing it all season long and it should be the "hook up" for other 12th scales as well (since it will also fit on the AE and trinity cars). its very adjustable and should be alot more consistant than the AE dynamic strut or old style front end in both the parts quality themselves, as well as hold it holds up and stays the same throughout a race.
stormperson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2003, 07:41 AM   #125
Tech Champion
 
rayhuang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Posts: 6,511
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to rayhuang
Default

I too have seen the V-Force in person and it is really an awesome looking front end. A real departure from the hum-drum "old-skool" and the cantankerous (sp?) AE Re-active front end and the impossibly difficult to adjust SB2002 front end. Of which I have all three styles in my pitbox built and ready to install!!!

I cannot wait to buy the V-Force and try it.
rayhuang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2003, 06:01 PM   #126
Tech Elite
 
Brian McGreevy's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,081
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Brian McGreevy Send a message via Yahoo to Brian McGreevy
Default

Wow...that is awesome, looks like I'm gonna get a speedmerchant afterall...

On another note, does anyone know if the new front end will fit on the Rev 3 car?
__________________
USVTA Member #211

Support Formula SAE - get kids into engineering!
http://motorsports.illinois.edu/
Brian McGreevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2003, 06:05 PM   #127
Tech Elite
 
Brian McGreevy's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,081
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Brian McGreevy Send a message via Yahoo to Brian McGreevy
Default

Oh duh...nvm, that's a new front end they're putting on the Rev 3.
__________________
USVTA Member #211

Support Formula SAE - get kids into engineering!
http://motorsports.illinois.edu/
Brian McGreevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2003, 07:55 PM   #128
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Beaumont, TX
Posts: 644
Default

Futureal- did you happen to get any pic's of Mike and or his cars? If so, I sure could use a couple for my site, with your permission.

Thanks! J.S.
jsbodies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2003, 08:29 PM   #129
Tech Master
 
stormperson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: MA
Posts: 1,185
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to stormperson
Default

i am pretty sure that the trinity car will require different mounting bulkhead or whatever they are called than the rev. 3. since the things that go onto the chassis wrap around the chassis in order to keep them from pivoting.
stormperson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2003, 07:42 PM   #130
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 298
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by jsbodies
Futureal- did you happen to get any pic's of Mike and or his cars? If so, I sure could use a couple for my site, with your permission.

Thanks! J.S.
there is a picture of Mike and his cars on the Associated site
BrianJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2003, 08:27 PM   #131
Tech Elite
 
BigDogRacing's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 2,955
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to BigDogRacing
Default

For those of you that raced at the Nats- give us the scoop on what REALLY happened with the traction. I've heard that it got better, better, too much, insane, then crap when the track got saturated with traction compound and all of the sudden everyone's setups changed. Can you guys give some insight?
BigDogRacing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2003, 09:33 PM   #132
R/C Tech Founder
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Del Mar, CA, USA
Posts: 7,063
Default

The biggest problem with the track was that it was like a "blue groove" dirt track. If you got out of the run line, you were gone. There were times where I blew a corner and it felt like I had broken my car. It made for some unfortunate traffic incidents where someone got out of the line and then nailed someone else because their car suddenly lost ALL of its handling.

After a heat, most everybody was using lighter fluid to clean the foams since they would get so dirty on the edges of the track. I'm talking really dirty.

I don't think the traction changed too much, though, it just kept going up and kind of reached a plateau. It did make it hard to get a car to be consistent, though.
__________________
Visit my store: www.ampdraw.com
futureal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2003, 10:09 PM   #133
TRL
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 69
Default traction

I was wondering why Blackstock ran his car so soft 50 and 40 oil copper springs, and tires double/pink orange(never knew they made them) and double pinks?

Now obviously it worked,it just seems really soft set-up to me if there was so much traction? Not even a upper plate or anything..

confused I guess!!
TRL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2003, 10:48 PM   #134
Tech Champion
 
Kevin K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: In a land of mini-mighty mental giants
Posts: 8,833
Trader Rating: 32 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Kevin K Send a message via Yahoo to Kevin K
Default

Shane hit the nail on the head it was like a blue groved carpet track. You got out of that groove and good luck getting back in with out a meeting with the wall first. I dont think the traction went away later in the weekend but people were looking to get their car more free in the corners and thats where the softer compound tires came in. The softer tire will flex more and let the car rotate more in the corner so thats why you saw some weird compounds used like what the Jaco guys ran. Some of the guys on TRC's ran magenta's and tan's for rear tires. I know I went to tan tires for the last gualifier and wish I had done it sooner the car was much easier to drive with them in the back.
__________________
2013 USVTA World Champion of the World
MOTIV RC presents the Midwest All-Star Carpet Series....15th year running 2017/18!!!
USVTA National Championship....check it out!!!
Im only responsible for what I say NOT what you understand.
Kevin K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2003, 11:50 PM   #135
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 215
Send a message via AIM to Dave Kurschner
Default

Another reason for the softer setups was the almost uncharacteristicly tight layout for this race. So the lower infield speeds with the cars always turning one way or the other, slightly softer setups and tires gave the sidebite needed for faster cornering speeds.

Everybody there would agree that the groove was fairly narrow. But again the layout really dictates the groove that forms. If you got off the groove, it was very tough to control your car. But the groove was very high bite with the Jack da gripper compound. There were quite a few cars, even 1/12th scales, that were lifting up and traction rolling at times. Alot of people solved this problem by supergluing the sidewalls of their front tires. Some people said that the groove almost felt a bit greasy at times.
Dave Kurschner is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
R/C Tech LIVE @ the 2004 ROAR Paved On-Road Nationals in Portland, Oregon futureal Electric On-Road 721 12-07-2004 08:35 PM
R/C Tech LIVE from the 2004 ROAR Carpet Nationals futureal Electric On-Road 704 04-08-2004 11:47 PM
R/C Tech Live @ the 2004 Trinity/Car Action Snowbird Nationals futureal Electric On-Road 901 02-25-2004 03:05 PM
R/C Tech Live @ the 2003 US Indoor Championsions in Cleveland, OH futureal Electric On-Road 479 01-26-2004 07:34 PM
ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals 2003 @ TCHR in MN Mark O'Brien Racing Forum 4 11-26-2002 09:48 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 02:16 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net