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Old 05-23-2005, 05:22 AM   #13606
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Hi,

Does anyone know why Billy Easton was running the SD SSG at the worlds rather than the SDW?

He had both on his pit table but was running the SSG for sure, isnt the SSG flexier?

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Old 05-23-2005, 06:43 AM   #13607
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I think it was because the track was very hot the SSG worked better as it was not so stiff. Masami told Billy to run the SSG over the worlds car. I think that Masami was only allowed to run the worlds car as Yokomo told him too.
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Old 05-23-2005, 06:51 AM   #13608
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well, actually, yok didn't have a worlds car for him to drive at worlds. the car on his table was either masami's or the back up/parts car. however after testing in japan and other places, billy did prefer the ssg silver, over the rayspeed, and cgm. the ssg was his car of choice at the roar on road paved electric nationals last year in portland oregon.
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Old 05-23-2005, 06:53 AM   #13609
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Hi,

has anyone a setup for the SDW which works well on a tight carpet track?

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Old 05-23-2005, 06:53 AM   #13610
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I see thats interesting thanks! But whats the heat got to do with the chassi stifness, does it affect it? or is it because the less grip of the track because of the heat?

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Old 05-23-2005, 07:01 AM   #13611
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has anyone a setup for the SDW which works well on a tight carpet track?

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with a stock motor, i just ran mine bone stock with rubber tires. take off 27's premounted. you could try to go a little heavier with the shock oil.
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Old 05-23-2005, 07:04 AM   #13612
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Stock motor+rubbers... correct... forgot that there is another type of tires, too...

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Old 05-23-2005, 07:57 AM   #13613
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I would run stiffer springs, blue at the rear white in the front and add a lot of droop so that the chassi can roll

Hope this helps, not a carpet expert

BTW, Massami chose to run the SDW rather than the BD at national Japanese champioship in stock and mod I think so the SDW might be his car of choice over the SSG but not always over the BD since it has so different caracteristics

I was asking this because I would like to get a SSG to race with as I will probably keep the SDW as a collection piece
I would be sick if I crash it and I could upgrade the SSG to the LCG when I have the money for it...

Still have the SSG vs Pro 4 battle going in my head!

BTW, Billy did have a SDW to drive:
http://www.yokomousa.com/kits/mr4tc_...s_cars_600.jpg

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Old 05-23-2005, 08:22 AM   #13614
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Does anyone know why Billy Easton was running the SD SSG at the worlds rather than the SDW?

He had both on his pit table but was running the SSG for sure, isnt the SSG flexier?

Cheers!
Billy ran the SSG because he was quicker with it than worlds car. He could have ran either car. Also, he used plastic over composit graphite parts. Which gave him even more flex. I believe the reason for this had a lot to do alot with running the TO27 handout tires.
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:42 AM   #13615
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cool, nice post thanks!

I was almost sure about the plastic parts also...now what would be interesting is to know if Masami ran the SDW under Yoko s demand, for the commercial\advertising thing

But then, they wouldnt have made only 555 kits dont u think?
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I can't see the sense in anyone using the plastic components under any conditions - they're much weaker/more vulnerable to sudden failure. Unlike most other manufacturer's standard 'plastic' moulded components that appear to use more fibre re-enforcement.

Yokomo's Graphite parts seem to be moulded more consistently (compared to their plastic parts), which I assume is purely down to the properties of the material iteself, rather than the actual design of the parts. Despite this, Yokomo made numerous updates to both Graphite & Plastic suspension parts to help with the durability side of things.

Having more chassis flex is supposed to help in low grip situations, so I can see why some drivers would in some cases prefer the SSG SD over other versions.
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Yokomo's Graphite parts seem to be moulded more consistently (compared to their plastic parts), which I assume is purely down to the properties of the material iteself, rather than the actual design of the parts. Despite this, Yokomo made numerous updates to both Graphite & Plastic suspension parts to help with the durability side of things.
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:11 AM   #13618
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Yoks Plastic parts are weak but when you drive like Billy or Masami its not a problem and they took advantage of the weak\flexy parts made in plastic to get more grip for the reason you mentioned
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you're getting old my friend... you used to have a much harder line and be a lot more vocal than this not so long ago

Cheers,
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PS: btw: if you european folks are looking for some parts/upgrades for your sd, shoot me an email @ [email protected]... I switched brands so I'm parting from my parts supply (keeping the chassis as a souvenir though)
Hi matey! Good to dee you again here!

Well, I'm not actually that much older, but I don't need to be so vocal these days as Yokomo have already dealt with the 'well known' issues. Also, since the CGM became available, parts availability ceased being an issue in the UK.
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Yoks Plastic parts are weak but when you drive like Billy or Masami its not a problem and they took advantage of the weak\flexy parts made in plastic to get more grip for the reason you mentioned
I get what you're saying, but I still reckon an element of risk entered Billy's equation in his quest to get a little extra grip. Plenty of drivers besides those at the worlds can run 5 minute races without hitting anything (but just not as quickly!!). The gamble being that on occassion, these plastic parts have been known to fail suddenly, purely under perfectly normal loads associated with racing - not crashing or hitting the boards - just hard cornering. Either way, his choices certainly raised a few eyebrows!
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