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Old 03-14-2005, 04:44 PM   #12781
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Hey guys the outdoor racing season just started for us out here and I'm still strugglin' w/ set-up, but of course still having fun. With alot of the 'big boy' races running pre-mounts and the bazillion combinations of tyres/inserts, I was thinkin' (uh oh)... is it possible to learn set-up with these cars at an accelerated (and let's not forget cheaper ) rate with pre-mounts on any track surface/conditions?
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Try ATHEENA PROJECTS...

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Thanks for that suggestion JB (even tho I wasnt the one who asked..) its just what I was also looking for..

Thier URL is http://www.atheenaprojects.com
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Hey guys the outdoor racing season just started for us out here and I'm still strugglin' w/ set-up, but of course still having fun. With alot of the 'big boy' races running pre-mounts and the bazillion combinations of tyres/inserts, I was thinkin' (uh oh)... is it possible to learn set-up with these cars at an accelerated (and let's not forget cheaper ) rate with pre-mounts on any track surface/conditions?
AIIH...

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its always hard for anyone to know what works best for a track, unless theyve actually raced there.

"bigboys" are for the most part are your best resource, they will always use the best combo for the correct application; and if you lack the courage to talk to them there is always your lhs employee/racer.

what type of brand, premounts are you guys running?
rubber is temp rated / inserts are grip rated
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Old 03-14-2005, 05:35 PM   #12784
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its always hard for anyone to know what works best for a track, unless theyve actually raced there.

"bigboys" are for the most part are your best resource, they will always use the best combo for the correct application; and if you lack the courage to talk to them there is always your lhs employee/racer.

what type of brand, premounts are you guys running?
rubber is temp rated / inserts are grip rated
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Old 03-14-2005, 05:37 PM   #12785
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its always hard for anyone to know what works best for a track, unless theyve actually raced there.

"bigboys" are for the most part are your best resource, they will always use the best combo for the correct application; and if you lack the courage to talk to them there is always your lhs employee/racer.

what type of brand, premounts are you guys running?
rubber is temp rated / inserts are grip rated
Thanks... but I get around enough to know what you're stating. I'm trying to get away from the hundreds of dollars that goes into buying every sort of insert/tyre combo out there. I'm going to be running RP-30's, also RP-32's and 36's when they come out, and Take-off 27's. RP is produced by TO.
Simply... can I run pre-mounts and still set-up the car for maximum grip on any track surface/condition?


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Old 03-14-2005, 06:02 PM   #12786
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Thanks... but I get around enough to know what you're stating. I'm trying to get away from the hundreds of dollars that goes into buying every sort of insert/tyre combo out there. I'm going to be running RP-30's, also RP-32's and 36's when they come out, and Take-off 27's. RP is produced by TO.
Simply... can I run pre-mounts and still set-up the car for maximum grip on any track surface/condition?


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lost me when you said premounts...
- premounts are preglued from the manufacture, there is realy just a handful of combinations from any given manufacture...

ive ran takeoff 27s, 'left over handouts' - but i wouldnt recomend them to anyone, they tend to go away after afew packs... the rp 32s (cant remember company name) are what im running now (i think they are made by take-off; package under a different name/just like you said, with good results, they are consistent pack after pack and dont over heat no matter how hard i push; what more can you ask for in a tire... quality control is something to be improved upon though...

i was told the that rp-32 are equivlent to takeoff-30, a few steps down in hardness...
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Old 03-14-2005, 08:46 PM   #12787
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Quick question time.....

I have 3 hole Yokomo pistons in one set of shocks with 450 oil and it seems to work in most cases and I also tried 3 hole Rayspeed ones (in another set of shocks) with the same oil but it was way to soft so switched back.

Just wondering what weight oil do ppl think I should go up to with the 3 hole Rayspeed pistons to get a similar action to the 3 hole Yokes with 450 oil?

I'm guessing 600?
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:32 PM   #12788
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Thanks... but I get around enough to know what you're stating. I'm trying to get away from the hundreds of dollars that goes into buying every sort of insert/tyre combo out there. I'm going to be running RP-30's, also RP-32's and 36's when they come out, and Take-off 27's. RP is produced by TO.
Simply... can I run pre-mounts and still set-up the car for maximum grip on any track surface/condition?


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Most likely not. That's why in they don't run pre-mounts in Asia. Seems sad that we are getting stuck with pre-mounts in these big races. But it has it's upside (less cost and equality) and it's downsize (lack of traction).
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The RP'S are suppose to be just like the Sorex tire. We will be ruuning them this weekend @ Speedworld if it doesn't rain.
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Old 03-15-2005, 12:04 AM   #12790
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The RP'S are suppose to be just like the Sorex tire. We will be ruuning them this weekend @ Speedworld if it doesn't rain.
They'd better be up there in quality, they cost the same ...

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Old 03-15-2005, 03:01 AM   #12791
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Hi guys, b4 i go off on my RC sabbatical for 3 months (i have to go for training) i just got myself a TIR spool for my CGM(i just couldn't help it!)
I would like to hear some tips on how it's going to affect my car's handling. Currently I'm driving with a one-way and to be honest, i'ma rippin'. Just wanted to try something different.
SO, what can i expect from a spool in a tiny track and also, what settings should i change just in case my car goes all awkwardly?

Johnbull, time to speak up!

Thanks in advance!
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Old 03-15-2005, 06:11 AM   #12792
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Hi guys, b4 i go off on my RC sabbatical for 3 months (i have to go for training) i just got myself a TIR spool for my CGM(i just couldn't help it!)
I would like to hear some tips on how it's going to affect my car's handling. Currently I'm driving with a one-way and to be honest, i'ma rippin'. Just wanted to try something different.
SO, what can i expect from a spool in a tiny track and also, what settings should i change just in case my car goes all awkwardly?

Johnbull, time to speak up!

Thanks in advance!
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I think you can expect other racers to run circles around you on tight, technical layouts (ie most indoor tracks).... at least that's what I found out.

I gave up on the spool... not enough turn-in in slow sections for me.

I guess with foams it's different, but for rubber on carpet it just didn't work for me. there's one circumstance where it really rocks, it's when there's a weird slow section at the end of a fast straight... the spool helps the car stay stable. Otherwise, I found it slowed me down.

Good news btw: Last weekend, first 2005 round of the swiss nats, 70 drivers... One and just one Yokomo in the whole paddocks... Guess who won the 17T class?

The car will retire at the peak of its glory... My FK05 is already ordered. back to belts!

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Because of the nature of a Spool (locked front diff) the wheels are fighting each other as you turn into the corner because of thier turning radius (the reason why cars have ackerman), this causes understeer as they fight each other for grip.

As you come on the power on corner exit there is no slip in the diff, the wheels are straightening up and you can get all your power to the ground.
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The car will retire at the peak of its glory... My FK05 is already ordered. back to belts!

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jaybee, hope you didn't go drop a bunch of money on unproven tires. the rp's are new to Fantasy World, and while the rubber may be the same as a sorex, the inserts are hard as hell and don't have any air gap. if you go run elesroc or 4 seasons where the track as tons of traction (as oppose to artifical traction, - grape soda), then the rp's should be just fine. it has taken many years and lots of money but the sorex 32' and 36's when really hot, with the yok 039f or hpi inserts is what works. also the ing tire in a 32 works great also. thats what korey used to tq and win 19t last year at FW's two day race, and i think he ran the same tire both days, and in 19t and mod.
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