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Old 01-08-2005, 02:46 AM   #11596
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Speaking of springs, I have a pair of the green springs coming from Speedtech (these will be the only non-kit springs I have) and I have a question of my own.

All I remember from the 4wd off-road days is that if I had the stiffer springs up front (and kit rear) I'd end up with less steering and if I put them on the rear (and kit front) I ended up with more.

What I'd like to know from a on-road stand point is what could I expect to see if I did the same thing but more with regards this on-power off-power stuff?

I'm running twin diffs if this helps.

Thanks in advance.
Yes, you're right in your thinking. One thing though is if you go too soft on one end of the suspension it will do the opposite of what you think it should. If you put a really soft spring on the rear, your rear end will want to slid all over the place since the suspension will be transfering all the weight to one tire and that tire will give out. same thing for the front. I believe this is the reason Team Yokomo ran the RS green springs (the softest ones) on the rear of their cars at the worlds when using a spool.
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Yes, you're right in your thinking. One thing though is if you go too soft on one end of the suspension it will do the opposite of what you think it should. If you put a really soft spring on the rear, your rear end will want to slid all over the place since the suspension will be transfering all the weight to one tire and that tire will give out. same thing for the front. I believe this is the reason Team Yokomo ran the RS green springs (the softest ones) on the rear of their cars at the worlds when using a spool.
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has anybody ever bought a rayspeed conversion kit? i want one but it costs too much and i was wonderin if its worth the 150 im goin to pay for it
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has anybody ever bought a rayspeed conversion kit? i want one but it costs too much and i was wonderin if its worth the 150 im goin to pay for it
I had one and it's really good but if you don't have a CGM currently I would suggest getting a CGM conversion kit instead. The CGM chassis is stiffer and doesn't take a tweek like double deck cars can.
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I had one and it's really good but if you don't have a CGM currently I would suggest getting a CGM conversion kit instead. The CGM chassis is stiffer and doesn't take a tweek like double deck cars can.
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Old 01-08-2005, 09:25 AM   #11602
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dose anyone have a copy of the gear chart that came with the sd thansk Robert
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Old 01-08-2005, 09:32 AM   #11603
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dose anyone have a copy of the gear chart that came with the sd thansk Robert
70Spur
18=9.14
19=8.66
20=8.22
21=7.83
22=7.48
23=7.15
24=6.85
25=6.58
26=6.33
27=6.10
28=5.87
29=5.67
30=5.48

71 Spur
18=9.27
19=8.78
20=8.34
21=7.94
22=7.58
23=7.25
24=6.95
25=6.67
26=6.42
27=6.18
28=5.96
29=5.75
30=5.56

72 Spur
19=8.91
20=8.46
21=8.06
22=7.69
23=7.36
24=7.05
25=6.77
26=6.51
27=6.27
28=6.04
29=5.83
30=5.64

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Old 01-08-2005, 10:18 AM   #11604
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When i see that chart, anyone has the Spring chart for almost all manufacturer? I forget to save it everytime i see it
Don't really want to search through 20+ pages either

btw, Was looking at my car this day and thought:
Why the hell not refill the shocks? They have been on my CGM for more than 2 month since last refill, so i took all off and thought the left rear shock felt a little "weird", kind of something was in the shock floating around on top of the piston
So i disassembled the shock and found the diaphragm (Rayspeed Yellow) cut in half and inside the shockbody.. Wonder how the hell that could have happend
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When i see that chart, anyone has the Spring chart for almost all manufacturer? I forget to save it everytime i see it
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Spring Rates
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YOKOMO RAYSPEED
Orange 18.87 Gray 19.90
Green 16.06 Red 18.25
Pink 14.93 White 17.17
Yellow 14.71 Yellow 14.87
White 12.94 Blue 14.29
Blue 12.12 Green 13.20

ASSOCIATED T A M I Y A
White 40.00 Purple 22.72
Yellow 31.91 Gray 20.91
Purple 30.30 White/S 17.24
Copper 23.26 Blue/S 15.27
Red 23.06 White 14.82
Gold 18.35 Blue 14.08
Blue 16.53 Yellow 13.33
Silver 13.89 Red/S 13.24
Green 11.43 Yellow/S 12.90
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the thing is im goin to get a used cgm roller and i dont want to keep teh cgm chassis(since its used and all). so wat i was thinking was i was just going to place the chassis with a new one.
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Thanks lem2! *printing out*
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check and make sure the rayspeed comes with parts for the steering servo savers, i don't think the one on the cgm will work.
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yea i think it does. iis there a difference performance wise between buying a conversion or just buying teh ssg chassis parts?
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