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Old 12-31-2004, 06:52 AM   #11416
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If I understand the SDW short arm discussion correctly. I will be able to install the short arms on my CGM by changing the suspension mounts and arms; is that correct?
I don't think they'll work on the CGM since it uses the split suspension mounts. They'll work on the SSG and Black special though.
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matt......

what's the best choice......SSG or CGM kit??

I'll run mostly 19t class.....always at an indoor asphalt track, rubber tires only.....
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Old 12-31-2004, 07:00 AM   #11418
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you could just put them straight on, but you will have a car with a narrow front end. i.e. 186mm instead of 190mm the worlds car has wider suspension mounts to move the arms out so that while being shorter in length the wheel hex is in the same position.

you might be able to adapt these arms to the ssg or rayspeed because they are flat chassis cars. the way that the cgm use the rearward forward hinge pin mounts they won't work, but now that i think about it, i guess i guy could make his own hinge pin mounts somehow and do it, so to answer your question, hell i don't know. lol
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Old 12-31-2004, 07:07 AM   #11419
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Trying to get the short arms on my CGM sounds like a good project. The biggest issue I have with my Yok is steering. I've done a lot of setup changes trying to get more and more steering out of it. The car is just rock solid on the track, easy to drive and fast. As yo stated earlyier Matt using the Ray Speed old front shock tower on the front and then running the shocks in the 3rd from the outside hole really helped the car rotate through the corner better.
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matt......

what's the best choice......SSG or CGM kit??

I'll run mostly 19t class.....always at an indoor asphalt track, rubber tires only.....
I personally think the CGM is a better car and a better deal since it includes all graphite components. You don't have to worry about chassis tweek with the CGM either.
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Trying to get the short arms on my CGM sounds like a good project. The biggest issue I have with my Yok is steering. I've done a lot of setup changes trying to get more and more steering out of it. The car is just rock solid on the track, easy to drive and fast. As yo stated earlyier Matt using the Ray Speed old front shock tower on the front and then running the shocks in the 3rd from the outside hole really helped the car rotate through the corner better.
If you're looking for more steering then space your front arms all the way back and either run the rear arms in the middle for more off power steering or all the way back for more on power steering.
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ok.....

and is there any hopup that is a must or the car will work at optimum performance as it comes from the factory????
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ok.....

and is there any hopup that is a must or the car will work at optimum performance as it comes from the factory????
I suggest the wide front bumper kit and the aluminum input shafts. Everything else is pretty much eye candy.
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I'm currently running the front arms all the way back and the rear arms all the way forward. I will move the rear arms back again and see how that feels. I was running 1.10mm spacers under the front portion of the rear suspension mount (anti squat) it really helped loosen the rear end up. The car works great, one of the best handling cars I've ever driven.
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I'm currently running the front arms all the way back and the rear arms all the way forward. I will move the rear arms back again and see how that feels. I was running 1.10mm spacers under the front portion of the rear suspension mount (anti squat) it really helped loosen the rear end up. The car works great, one of the best handling cars I've ever driven.
another thing to try is putting spacers under the front outside camber link ball stud, try 1mm and go from there.
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It all depends what you think you are going to achieve.

If you think that reducing the front track is going to improve things then the SDW arms fitted on everything else CGM will work. Alternatively you could make your own suspension mounts to give you whatever track you wish.

Conversely, fitting normal CGM arms on an SDW will give you a track wider than 190. Just depends what you want and what the regs will allow.

What I want to try next is the trailing front hubs. Theoretically they should improve straight line stability, but as they also lengthen the wheelbase slightly, you could end up with a less agile car round the twisty bits.

Always a question of swings and roundabouts !!!!!!

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Matt keep the suggestions coming; it will give me many more things to try.
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Matt keep the suggestions coming; it will give me many more things to try.
stand the front and rear shocks more upright, if you're running the trailing steering blocks (they have a 1 molded in them) then try the inline steering blocks (they have a 0 on them). Different bodies will give more or less steering as well, try a protoform mazda 6 or a yokomo type E, they both have lots of steering.
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Standing the front shocks up really did help. I didn't noitice as big a change with the inline steering blocks but I always keep them handy just in case. I currently use a Protoform Alfa; everything I read about the Mazda 6 says it's not as good on carpet as asphalt. Most of my steering issues is on power. Would raising the rear inner camber link up to the top hole help on-power steering.
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Standing the front shocks up really did help. I didn't noitice as big a change with the inline steering blocks but I always keep them handy just in case. I currently use a Protoform Alfa; everything I read about the Mazda 6 says it's not as good on carpet as asphalt. Most of my steering issues is on power. Would raising the rear inner camber link up to the top hole help on-power steering.
If the problem your having is with on power steering the first thing I would try is moving the rear arms all the way back. With them spaced forward like you have them now more weight is over the rear tires under acceleration.
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