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Old 08-07-2004, 09:17 AM   #9226
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do you have the same probleme in the front?
perhaps you've mixed the driveshafts betwen front and rear...
anyway rebuild everything this problem is not really normal

I've forgotten this kit took so much time to build
The problem is in the front the rear dogbones sit nice and even and don't bind on anything. But this one on the front hits the blue collar.

And what do you mean mixed the front and rear the kit instructions indicate that all four corners are the same.
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Old 08-07-2004, 09:26 AM   #9227
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I'm here for a year. The nearest track is 140 miles away by bus so it looks like I'll have alot of free time now
Ouch that hurts.......140 miles. Well good thing you are only their for a year.
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Old 08-07-2004, 09:45 AM   #9228
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The problem is in the front the rear dogbones sit nice and even and don't bind on anything. But this one on the front hits the blue collar.

And what do you mean mixed the front and rear the kit instructions indicate that all four corners are the same.
bones are the same but not the drive shaft...but i think you would have noticed it if you mixed those...just rebuild the driveshaft/knuckle..parts
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I would have to see the car to know exactly what's going on there, but I have to tell you - that's definitely not normal. I'm looking @ my rolling chassis right now trying to picture what's going on and I don't mean to disappoint you, but TAKE IT APART NOW AND REBUILD IT- SLOOWLY. How is your DIFF looking? Is it binding? The kit goes together quite well, you just have to take your time. It took me about 12-15 hrs. . I'm just ANAL about everything though.
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Old 08-07-2004, 11:37 AM   #9230
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Do you have the front shocks on the car, with the correct up travel
limited and the droop properly set, that the suspension works in the correct range, the drive pins will not hit the blue metal rings. Yes, the diff are not exactly center because the way we shim it to gets the proper gear mesh, in my case it sits to the left side. So the drive pin on the right side is closer to the blue ring, but it has enough clearance when the front shocks are on.
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Old 08-07-2004, 05:08 PM   #9231
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Do you have the front shocks on the car, with the correct up travel
limited and the droop properly set, that the suspension works in the correct range, the drive pins will not hit the blue metal rings. Yes, the diff are not exactly center because the way we shim it to gets the proper gear mesh, in my case it sits to the left side. So the drive pin on the right side is closer to the blue ring, but it has enough clearance when the front shocks are on.
I assure other posters that yes I have built it anally as well etc etc lol.

Anyway as to this.... the shocks are not on at the moment and I figure the problem would go away when I do.

But seeing how as I used calipers to ensure that the droop screw was sticking exactly 2mm below the arm on both sides I figure that even with the shocks on this screw will be touching chassis as it is now. And as such the problem still shouldn't be there anyway.



Yes the shimming is on the side that would cause me to observe what I am but the shims don't equal the difference in dogbone pin depth in the out drive to explain this.
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Old 08-07-2004, 05:29 PM   #9232
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I'm here for a year. The nearest track is 140 miles away by bus so it looks like I'll have alot of free time now
OUCH man.....60 miles by bus to Hobbyworld Gilroy here....you have me doubled plus change
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Old 08-07-2004, 06:27 PM   #9233
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just to check I moved all the shims to the other side to allow that drive cup to move over further but the dogbone pins still hit the blue ring.
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:19 PM   #9234
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Last things I can think of, have you set camber and toe. If your car has too much positive camber(the top of the tyre leans out, the camber links are too long) or too much toe-out.These may be the causes.
I have more than 1mm gap between the drive pin and the blue ring. Last, if you have time, measures the dog bone( the longer part), the whole lenght of the bone is 51.3mm or 2.02", althought the chance of getting a shorter than normal bone is very small.
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Last things I can think of, have you set camber and toe. If your car has too much positive camber(the top of the tyre leans out, the camber links are too long) or too much toe-out.These may be the causes.
I have more than 1mm gap between the drive pin and the blue ring. Last, if you have time, measures the dog bone( the longer part), the whole lenght of the bone is 51.3mm or 2.02", althought the chance of getting a shorter than normal bone is very small.
Wish you good luck!
All settings are as per intructions in the manuel and the dogbones are the same length (just been checking that with calipers) but the gap between the blue ring and drive pin on the effected side is just on 1mm.
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Old 08-08-2004, 02:18 AM   #9236
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Ok it has been suggested to me that.....

the diff outdrive rings are not needed on the front of the cgm/ssg anyway but are need on the rear as that's where most of the power goes?

The guy even said he's surprized the other front one wasn't hitting the ring as well.
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Old 08-08-2004, 02:43 AM   #9237
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All settings are as per intructions in the manuel and the dogbones are the same length (just been checking that with calipers) but the gap between the blue ring and drive pin on the effected side is just on 1mm.
Yer the length of the dogbones are the same, but the second part of the driveshafts, the outdrive parts are different lengths front to rear. Make sure you havent got these mixed up, to be sure you understand which part i mean here is an example http://64.70.208.72/speedtechrc/186.html
they are at the very bottom of that page. Those are the parts that a longer and shorter front to rear
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Old 08-08-2004, 02:45 AM   #9238
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Also make sure that your wheel bearings are correctly seated in the front hubs

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Old 08-08-2004, 03:22 AM   #9239
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I would say go over everything. first of all check that your diff is in the right way. They can go in both ways and one half of the diff is longer. Then assure that your shimming is correct. Also set drop and make sure you do camber with teh wheels on. after all that check to see if it is still hitting. Maybe a picture would help us out.

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You said you did everything according to the manual, do you think you assembled the gear diff on the opposite side?

The correct way is the teeth side of the gear diff should be on the Long part of the outdrive not the short. That's the only way I see why your outdrives are short on one side!

if not...

Do you think the problem can be corrected by shimming?

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