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Old 06-09-2004, 02:08 AM   #8491
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Not a slight on the TC3 but just an exaggerated way of saying it's been refined and improvments made on an older design?

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Actually would it be fair to say (well it seems so with comments made) that the CGM is more akin to a TC3 factory kit?
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Old 06-09-2004, 02:47 AM   #8492
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This will be most of your problem. Run a lower shore rating (softer) on the rear, it will give the car more stability. Never run a harder rear tyre.

Wear is just one of those things you have to live with to get a good handling car (I always find the fronts wear more though). You may even find that the softer rear tyres wear less, because you will have less wheelspin.

As far as suspension tuning to stop the rear coming around, I like to stiffen the front end or run a higher front roll-centre.
Thanks dude I'll try that
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Old 06-09-2004, 03:26 AM   #8493
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Old 06-09-2004, 05:16 AM   #8494
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apart from those things you mention (and as this is a Yokomo thread) what would you say makes the Yoko shaft better than the TC3 as the designs are at least similar?

I should add that personally for me it makes no difference because I've never had an on-road car before so just curious in that respect as the drive train/gearbox (the heart of the beasts as it were) do look like twins lol.
I've never worked on a TC3, but one thing that I absolutely love about my Yokomo is that it is extremely easy to work on. Access to the transmission has to be the easises of ANY kit currently available. I love it!
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Old 06-09-2004, 06:17 AM   #8495
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Mabuchi:

I own both an an RS chassis'd SD and a TC3. I don't however own a CGM.

The SD is a much nicer to car to work on [than a TC3] - it's far quicker and easier to service and I personally prefer metric screws etc as I am more familiar with them.

The TC3 is a hard car to beat performance wise. Straight out of the box, I'd still say the TC3 FT is the car to beat - though I think things are only just beginning to change.

The CGM is a bathtub chassis'd shaft driven touring car, so it's going to have more than a passing resemblance to the TC3. Many people nickname it the TC4 and I can see where they're coming from - especailly as AE and Yokomo have a mutual 'back scratching' arrangement going on.

Despite this, no one can dispute the CGM's competitiveness and when you consider that the CGM comes with mainly Carbon Composite parts at a very low price, the CGM is a very attractive proposition. The carbon parts are much better than the standard SD moulded parts, believe me - I did a whole lot of whinging about them.

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Old 06-09-2004, 12:38 PM   #8498
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The motor mount is also designed to not warp the chassis from the heat.
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Old 06-09-2004, 01:52 PM   #8499
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Well I have been doing some head scratching with my CGM the last month. The car just never felt like it was working correct and was doing some unusal stuff. A buddy and I took a hard look at the car a few days ago. The sway bars were not working the same on both sides when pressure was put on them while connected (took the shocks off to see the action). No matter what we tried...measured mounts, checked for bar tweek, ect...nothing allowed the bars to work correct. We then took the car down to the chassis. Put the chassis on my glass setup board and found that the CGM was FAR from flat....mega tweek in it. I then took the front section and mounted it to my SSG Chassis. First I checked to see if the SSG had any chassis issues...it was flat! I then checked the sway bars on the SSG setup and BINGO they worked the same on both sides and both ends of the car....

Have others had CGM issues with tweek? One of the areas that was bowed was the area around the motor mount...

I am going to the Roar Nats in July...

I have the ssg together to race this weekend but an up in the air about what to do for the nats...

1. run the ssg
2. Get a new CGM
3. Change cars....hate to go to the nats and have these issues crop up again....

Any info and insite would help a worried racer....lol

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Well I have been doing some head scratching with my CGM the last month. The car just never felt like it was working correct and was doing some unusal stuff. A buddy and I took a hard look at the car a few days ago. The sway bars were not working the same on both sides when pressure was put on them while connected (took the shocks off to see the action). No matter what we tried...measured mounts, checked for bar tweek, ect...nothing allowed the bars to work correct. We then took the car down to the chassis. Put the chassis on my glass setup board and found that the CGM was FAR from flat....mega tweek in it. I then took the front section and mounted it to my SSG Chassis. First I checked to see if the SSG had any chassis issues...it was flat! I then checked the sway bars on the SSG setup and BINGO they worked the same on both sides and both ends of the car....

Have others had CGM issues with tweek? One of the areas that was bowed was the area around the motor mount...

I am going to the Roar Nats in July...

I have the ssg together to race this weekend but an up in the air about what to do for the nats...

1. run the ssg
2. Get a new CGM
3. Change cars....hate to go to the nats and have these issues crop up again....

Any info and insite would help a worried racer....lol

Jeff
This should be a good enough excuse to buy the low weight CGM chassis
Forgot how much it was...probably something like $60-70
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Hi: Do you guys run foam on asphalt? I ask cauze in PR. foam tires are only allowed on sedan gas class, i wonder if foam tires would loosen up an electric car on high bite situations, like (sugar water treated surface) or maybe it could make it worst i don't know, can anybody clarify it for me please, thanks!
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I have just got an SD, ssg special a few days ago and haven't had a chance to change my signature yet but i soon will!
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any recos on after market bearing sets that are good quality and at a good price that i can use to replace the one's in my CGM? i noticed some of the ones i have in my kit have considerably big gaps along the seals (not all of them, but some more than others) which leaves a lot of room for dirt to easily get in. I'd have to clean out my bearings more frequently coz of this to ensure they dont seize up on me. i dont mind the maintenance work but it would be good if i could cut down the frequency of opening them up and cleaning them. thanks guys!
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