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Old 11-27-2003, 12:53 AM   #4861
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it's going to be cheep plastic mold chassis.....tub chassis is not for serious raceres. Masami's dad said it before.
Er.... ever heard about the TC3?

Raced the SD for the first time last WE... Great car, average driver. One thing I dislike about the car is that it memorizes tweak so bad... If you hit hard (which did happen a few times in the raceday) you really have to un-tweak it ASAP, else the car clearly runs funny. It's a pain sometimes.

Drivetrain is still not as free as I'd like, the car now has 1hr break-in on the stand + 25 batteries... I'm beginning to wonder wth is going on here... I was the only one dumping in the A (23turn class, 8-min race, Japan style) ... Ok, I had the smallest batteries of the bunch, but still...

There's still some work to be done.

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Old 11-27-2003, 01:01 AM   #4862
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MR-4TC Pro/SP were tubs as well...
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Old 11-27-2003, 01:40 AM   #4863
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there will also a conversion kit for the SSG and Black special and that won't be "cheap":
MR - For 4TC SD
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< 052660 > < SD-CGM > \12,800

The kit itself is cheaper than the SSG/BLACK kits but it will be pretty well equipped (threaded shocks, antiroll bars.....
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Old 11-27-2003, 01:42 AM   #4864
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it's going to be cheep plastic mold chassis.....tub chassis is not for serious raceres. Masami's dad said it before.
That kinda sucks, but I have heard there will be a carbon tub out as well, that's what I'm lookin for...
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Old 11-27-2003, 01:44 AM   #4865
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I also recieved all of my red aluminum stuff back today, and I've almost finished the SD. Just need to build the RS steering, and sand/seal the upper deck, and I'll be set. The car looks awesome, and should perform the same
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Old 11-27-2003, 02:39 AM   #4866
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Observe the steering bellcranks and rear shock tower. They're plastic copies of what we've seen on the Rayspeed Ultimate Kit. Seems like there is a servo saver/horn combo, as the bellcranks are quite slim.

To me SSG/Black Version vs. CGM is just like X-ray Evo2 vs. Raycer. Bringing a moulded version of a previosly machined product to the market is something every company (not spesific to RC) has to do to make decent money when the production volumes are rising. This is because the production cost of a tub is probably less than 1/5 the cost of a machined carbon fiber plate. (Just a guessed figure based on experience) But the investments in tooling are way higher on the moulded version.

If the serious racers prefer the tub version, that's just more money in Yokomo's pockets.


Tweak vs. not, carbon vs. tub, I prefer the Bling!!


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Wouldn't running the arms all the way back move some of the weight of the car to the rear. So you gain some rear traction while sacrificing some forward bite.
Nope it moves weight forward.
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:59 AM   #4868
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Randman - Where did you hear about a graphite tub? Any idea when it's coming? Will there be a graphite tub conversion kit w/ everything?
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It is just a matter of time until Yokomo releases a graphite tub chassis since they already made graphite molded shock towers.
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It is just a matter of time until Yokomo releases a graphite tub chassis since they already made graphite molded shock towers.
They have already made the shock towers??? Where are those avalible?
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Randman - Where did you hear about a graphite tub? Any idea when it's coming? Will there be a graphite tub conversion kit w/ everything?
Isn't it what CGM stands for? Carbon Graphite Material or Composite Graphite Material? Their previous tub chassis weren't bad.
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Hey has anyone used the Tobee craft aluminum parts such as the dog bones,drive shaft and input shafts? Are they considerably lighter? And are they pretty durable?I have them in hand and want to know what others think.I will run them in 19turn and stock.
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The tobee parts are awesome i run them in mod. and 19t and stock. You will see in stock the car has more punch out of the corners with the tobee bones and input shaft...
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Racenut-I think they are pretty good quality. Lighter than the original parts on the car. The input shafts will make a difference. I broke a dogbone somehow, but I think it was a defect in the aluminum because it snapped off clean. But for only 8 dollars a pair I can afford to replace them. The middle shaft is way lighter than the stock one and stronger than the Yok graphite one.
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Hey has anyone used the Tobee craft aluminum parts such as the dog bones,drive shaft and input shafts? Are they considerably lighter? And are they pretty durable?I have them in hand and want to know what others think.I will run them in 19turn and stock.
I've been running the tobee input shafts, center shaft, and rear dogbones since the summer running both mod and 19T and they've held up great and really reduce the weight of the drivetrain.
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