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Old 09-12-2003, 08:16 AM   #3331
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Hi everyone, I have a major problem with droop. No mater what I do, I have at least 8 or more mm of droop. I tried using the long shock ends but then I get alot of ride hight. Right now I am running associated springs and shock ends. How do I lower my droop without affection ride hight. Thanks
Droop as a measurement is affected only by the shock length and the position of your droop screws. If 8 is the reading you're getting on the Yoke guage, it means you either have the shocks far too short, or you have the droop screws in the wishbones screwed in a very long way (they need to be backed off).

Ride height is affected by the spring setup, not by shock length or droop screws (PS for any noobs reading this never use droop screws to adjust ride height). The Associated springs are longer than the Yoke's, so when you use Yoke bottoms you get much more ride height. Solution is to fit the new Rayspeed spring cups to the Yoke ends, or fit Associated shock ends and spring cups.
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Old 09-12-2003, 08:33 AM   #3332
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Do you guys find a benefit to using the longer Rayspeed or even AE springs over the shorter Yok springs? I'm going to need to get a spring assortment and I'm trying to weight the benefits of staying with the stock length or going with the longer and new ball cups...
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coucou utieh

Thanks kentech and utieh for your input.

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has anyone heard of someone making a steel or aluminum spool for the sd
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:11 PM   #3335
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Masami's SD at Reedy 03.
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Old 09-12-2003, 02:05 PM   #3336
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Aku-Man, Where do you race in Salt Lake City?
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Old 09-12-2003, 02:26 PM   #3337
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Do you guys find a benefit to using the longer Rayspeed or even AE springs over the shorter Yok springs? I'm going to need to get a spring assortment and I'm trying to weight the benefits of staying with the stock length or going with the longer and new ball cups...
The only reason (to my knowledge) people use different springs would be a) if they already had a stack of AE springs or b) if they were very particular about a spring rate. I find Yok springs work well, have a good set of spring rates and fit well for ride height issues. I would say stick with the Yoks. Just my $0.02.
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Old 09-12-2003, 02:28 PM   #3338
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the use of longer springs is more linear... compared to shorter springs which tend to be more progressive...
I've compared the 2 and with longer springs the SD handles and transitions better....
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Old 09-12-2003, 02:32 PM   #3339
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At parking lot.
SLC sucks, no track for on-road. Only one local club race f201 at parking lot most once a week.

Why ask?

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Old 09-12-2003, 03:00 PM   #3340
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the use of longer springs is more linear... compared to shorter springs which tend to be more progressive...
I've compared the 2 and with longer springs the SD handles and transitions better....
Is that why most 1/10 gas cars use the shorter springs, they need the progressive rate because of the extra weight?

Actually I think what makes a spring more or less progressive is the number of coils in the length of the spring. For example if a spring has 20 coils per inch vs. 10 coils with all else being equal. The spring with 20 coils will give the feeling of being stiffer faster althoght all else is equal.

Make sence???

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Old 09-12-2003, 03:28 PM   #3341
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Thanks for posting the picture of the golden Masami car!

I recommend running the associated springs if you feel your car is rolling through the corners to much, such as on a high traction surface (carpet). This way you can run a stiffer spring.
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Old 09-12-2003, 03:59 PM   #3342
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If you need stiffer springs that are the same size as the original springs, you can run the spring set for the GT-4 gas car.

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Old 09-12-2003, 04:24 PM   #3343
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the use of longer springs is more linear... compared to shorter springs which tend to be more progressive...
That's kind of what I was wondering... I'm going to gather that the concesus says go for the AE springs...
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Matt Howard who runs for Yokomo is moving to Salt Lake City in the near future, just wondering if anyone had a full time track. I thought that the off road track in Magna had a asphalt on road track too.
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Matt Howard who runs for Yokomo is moving to Salt Lake City in the near future, just wondering if anyone had a full time track. I thought that the off road track in Magna had a asphalt on road track too.
They do? Are you sure? I thought they only have off-road. Somebody told me intermountain going to have one, but don't know for sure.
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