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Old 07-15-2003, 09:45 AM   #2596
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Don't know if anybody else here have seen this car?

Just thought I would post the pictures here so you can see. Seems like they're busy in Japan... They're not letting the TC rest in peace!
Never seen that car, what is it based off of, or what is it?
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Old 07-15-2003, 09:56 AM   #2597
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Trying to compare some of the setups being chatted about on this site...I have the yok and ae spring rates...what are the rayspeed rates? Been serching this thread and others and cannot find the info...thanks guys!

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yodace How do I find information about the carbon fiber version of the SSG? Also were can I find pictures of the black version SSG?

Go to the yokomo web site you can see what you need there.
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Jeff messing around with rates on the ol finger dyno and squeezing 2 rates against each other

The Rayspeed blue is softer than AE blue and Rayspeed gray is softer than AE Copper I will check again tonight I didn't spend a whole lot of time playing with them.

Dad, try the 2-hole piston it made a huge difference in the transition side to side and also squat off the corner. Pete and I had alot of forward bite compared to the others
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Old 07-15-2003, 11:31 AM   #2600
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I have been running:
Front Copper
Rear Red
AE springs.

with CS22 tires all 4 corners on carpet. Seems ok but a tad bit pushy. I think the addition of a oneway might make this thing neutral.
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This is my approximation of the spring rates of the Rayspeed springs. Yellow=15lbs, White=18lbs, Red=20lbs & Grey=22lbs. The new green and blue springs are softer than yellow.
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:15 PM   #2602
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Jeff messing around with rates on the ol finger dyno and squeezing 2 rates against each other

The Rayspeed blue is softer than AE blue and Rayspeed gray is softer than AE Copper I will check again tonight I didn't spend a whole lot of time playing with them.

Dad, try the 2-hole piston it made a huge difference in the transition side to side and also squat off the corner. Pete and I had alot of forward bite compared to the others

Both the new Rayspeed Blue and Green is softer than Rayspeed Yellow. Rayspeed Yellow is equal to AE silver @ 14.5 lbs/in.
Rayspeed Red = AE Blue @ 17.0 lbs/in.
new Rayspeed Blue is probably = AE green @ 12.0 lbs/in. +/-

Rayspeed soft to hard:

Blue
Green
Yellow
White
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:29 PM   #2603
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How does a person adjust tweak with out a tweak station? I have a Hudy set up board.
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:50 PM   #2604
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That was the info I was looking for thanks!

Difuser- in your post about the #2 pistons you stated that you were gaining forward bite correct? On sunday I was really looking for a way to get the car to bite on a concrete parkinglot type race surface. My thoughts were too stiff of spring but reading your post peaked my interest...I ran #3 all around with AE Gold (19.5) front and Blue Rear (17). Interested in what you felt going from #3 to #2....

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It allowed the car to squat a touch more on accel.

The main change we did it for was the track was bumpy and the small hole allowed the spring/shock to "pack" so going to the large hole 2 allowed it to move freer, and follow the contour of the track smoother. Also side to side transition was sluggish

The main reason for forward bite was the insert we ran the 039F thin inserts which gave the Sorex36R a hint of airgap most of the other guys were running HPI green which filled the carcass a touch more and made the tire nervous over the bumps.
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Don't know if anybody else here have seen this car?

Just thought I would post the pictures here so you can see. Seems like they're busy in Japan... They're not letting the TC rest in peace!
According to Robert Itoh (YokomoUSA) this was suppose to be the next generation belt car, instead Yokomo decided to go w/ shaft.
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How does a person adjust tweak with out a tweak station? I have a Hudy set up board.
Check out this site:
http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/pro...&kategoria=253
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like difuser said, we noticed that our cars were not transfering weight as quickly as some of the other cars were on that track. it was his idea that if we tried going from the #3 piston (three small holes) to the piston with two large holes, it would allow the oil to move a little faster.

we rebuilt our shocks on saturday night, and bingo, we ran the last qual on sunday moring and i laid down the fastest run of the weekend.

and like he also said, the super thin yok firm inserts just gave us the forward traction that everybody else was dreaming of.

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Keith, I think there is no racing this weekend. Just practice. But we will next weekend. Glenn (shop owner) is heading out of town. So this will be my break from RC. Also, I run a oneway at Goldsboro. I ran a spool too. But I just like the way my car drives with the oneway. If I ran a spool with my setup, I'd run the copper or gold lower swaybar up front. I started with this at the State Race during practice. But switched to the oneway without front swaybars.

As for #2 piston, I may just try that out. I'd like to see the effect on a nice smooth asphalt track. Guess I'll have 2 sets of shocks ready for next time!

As for the pictures of AE ball cups on shock ends... sorry. I've just been alittle... Lazy lately... haha. It's nice to relax!

Well let me head back to my lazy self... gotta go eat dinner..... supper.. whatever you wanna call it....

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Sorry Keith, Rosewood/Goldsboro WILL be running this Saturday. Looks like they found someone to run the place while Glenn is gone. So maybe I'll see ya there? Talk with ya L8Rz...
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