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Old 06-03-2003, 03:06 PM   #1696
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Mo what setups on your website are with the stock yokomo springs? Is there any advantage to running the Rayspeed springs?

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Old 06-03-2003, 04:11 PM   #1697
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What is the lowest ride height you guys are getting on the rear end using the stock stuff with the lower holes in the shock tower?
I can get 4.5 with all the kit settings....
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Old 06-03-2003, 04:17 PM   #1698
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Jeff, I believe there is only 1 setup on my site that doen't use Yokomo springs and it is with Associated springs. I just got the Rayspeed springs this weekend. I will probably be using mostly the rayspeed and associated springs now though. The longer springs will be less progressive and should give a more consistant feel to the car.
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Old 06-03-2003, 04:44 PM   #1700
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Hi,
What is you guys set up for kingpin shims on front C-Hubs? It seems that most of setup sheets does not indicate placement of shims on a kingpins. Unless I'm missing something.
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Old 06-03-2003, 07:13 PM   #1701
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I don't see how you are getting 4.5mm ride height. I have been racing for years with tons of cars in every class, so it's not like I am a noob to building cars... I'll double check the manual and make sure I did everything right though.
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Old 06-03-2003, 07:28 PM   #1702
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Old 06-03-2003, 07:36 PM   #1703
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I don't see how you are getting 4.5mm ride height. I have been racing for years with tons of cars in every class, so it's not like I am a noob to building cars... I'll double check the manual and make sure I did everything right though.

I probably missed your posts early.

I build the shock in shuch a way that I can run my foam tires from 59.5mm ~ 54mm with 5mm constant ride height. I only have to adjust droop screw and shock adjusting nut. And I always have 1mm of an up travel.
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Oh, what spring were you using?

The photo is showing my 5mm ride height with 59.5mm tires on it.

As the tires getting smaller I back off droop screw and adjusting nut goes down toward the ground. As you can see I still have more room from the adjusting nut and the shock end cap... So, if I want to, I can drop the chassis down to 4mm or more with out any problem..

One thing that you can't see is I put an external limiter (1.8mm) on the shock shaft.



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I think my tires are what's playing a big role in the problem, they are 64mm Sorex 36R's...
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Yellow springs all around, but I am thinking about switching to Associated with their shock ends and spring retainers.
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What are the spring rates for the Rayspeed springs?

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I think my tires are what's playing a big role in the problem, they are 64mm Sorex 36R's...
I see, I never put 64mm tires size on it. Have you try to put the limiter on the inside shock shaft?

Shortening 1mm of tolal shock length goes a long way.


Oh-BTW, did you get your Alinco pwr supply yet?
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Hi guys. greetings from Malta.

The shock and spring issue is intersting, but never ending.

I ran my Belt drive Special with Associated TC3 shocks for years, simply to get what Mo says you get with the longer springs. He is absolutely correct; the longer springs do give the car more progression.

When I built up the SD I also built it up with TC3 shocks, though I put the new bladder type caps.

The reason for the longer shocks is more travel. The reason for the longer springs is more progression. In fact I have been using Fastrax springs on both my SD and my son's TC3. They are slightly longer than the Associated springs and go to a softer range, thus increasing our choice.

I did try the Yokomo shocks supplied with the kit, and I even put longer shafts in those (HPI), but found the car best everywhere with the TC3 shocks, number 3 pistons, and 40 oil. I have not run on carpet but on grippy asphalt.

I run a ride height of 5.5 front and 6 rear and the shocks have plenty of compression and rebound (droop). I did put bump limiters on the shocks which bottom out just before the chassis grounds.

I have not run the car for the last 10 days because I have been working on improving my son's TC3, but we are racing again this weekend so I will be running the SD again then.

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Sooo... what do you guys think of the Black Special?

Anyone think the SD SSG could be stiffer?
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