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Old 11-06-2007, 04:20 PM   #1066
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that is a clean layout on that car

asphalt or carpet????
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:23 PM   #1067
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Sweet setup...looks stealth
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:37 PM   #1068
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that is a clean layout on that car

asphalt or carpet????

Rubber Asphalt, a clean car is a fast car.

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Old 11-06-2007, 05:33 PM   #1069
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The best asphalt car i've seen was Mike Blackstock's car at the reedy race.

Mike pops in here every few days...maybe he can share his setup with us.
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:33 PM   #1070
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I have had quite a few pm's for a mod setup to be posted on here .. So instead of sending out pm's i will post my current mod setup on here that i used in Vegas and The Holloween race..


Front....

Small pulleys for the 1.71 ratio..

Short wheel base in front and rear..


Front shocks oil 50wt 1.1mm 2 hole piston or tamiya
Front shock spring 33 pound front spring
Front shock position on the tower... 1 Hole in
Front camber link ... Down and short
Caster 6 degree's caster
Front hinge pin height 8mm up from chassis
Front Camber -1.8 deg
Front wishbone or Arm . CF5
Shock on arm inner hole
Front track width 188mm
Ride height 4.5 mm
Droop 1.5mm above ride height

Rear Shock oil 40 wt 3 hole 1.1 mm or tamiya
Rear Spring 19 pound.
Rear Shock position 1 hole in from top ..
Rear shock on arm is outside hole
Rear Arms are 80%CF
Rear Camber link low and short on tower with specialized rc rear hubs with 1.5mm under ball stud..
Rear Toe 2 degrees.. shim according.
Camber 3 degree
Ride height 5mm
Droop 1.5mm above ride height
Hinge pin height is 8.0mm from chassis up measure in the middle of the pin..
Top deck is a 2.9 mm thick

Jaco Pinks all the way around cut to 56.8mm

If there is anything i left out please ask...

Mike Blackstock
He allready did (1 page back you guys)....
Here it is.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:16 PM   #1071
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He allready did (1 page back you guys)....
Here it is.
I think Josh was talking about electronics setup. But who knows.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:30 PM   #1072
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Sounds like he's asking for a rubber/asphalt setup. The one that blackstock posted is a foam/carpet setup.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:24 AM   #1073
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The setups that we're using in the uk are here http://www.rcracechat.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=64

We all tested the cells in the back at the start of the season and found the car to be more balanced with them towards the front, so you might want to put the receiver at the back or ontop of the servo.
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:48 AM   #1074
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Hi guys... Sorry for being alittle late.. Trying to get ready for the Cleveland indoor champs..

But here are some answers..


eddie10.. Yes those are the ones... I am sure both Xray and associated will work but you might need to change the bottom to fit the spring....

jdm19turn.. I am actually testing that now.. I am trying to see what heavier oil with a bigger hole piston do's.. Will post more on what this do's after cleveland... I might even drill them out to 1.4 or 1.5 !!


EddiRossi.. I run the 36t pulleys in Mod foam only.. I think it help the car turn and accelerate.. I could be 100% wrong but this is what i feel on the track... In rubber tires and stock or 19t i use the 2.0 ratio...

The short wheel base is with the shims only not the clamps.. I am not 100% sure wich belts do what . But i am pretty sure you need the short rear belt only to make this happen :-0)


OLD 69.. I did some testing with 5 cell with foams and could not get the car to handle as good with 6 cells.. One thing i could never do what get the left and right of the car to be close. I was always 2 oz or more heavier on the left side... If you can balance the car out with scales then it should be ok.. But so far with what i have been running and the weight break you get the only way to do this is to add weight to the right side of the car wich then takes away the weight break you get... I hope we stick with 6 cells....

Out doors at the reedy race we ran 5 cells and the car was ok.. Not nearly as bad as foams but still not the way you want to setup a car...

Any more Questions please leave them here and i will get them every other day or so... Be patient... :-)

The car is doing awesome...

I know brad Johnson and jeff brown went to omaha i think and took home the honors while Mo,Chicky and a few others went to cincy and did very well also...

Thanks

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Thank you Mike!

I will try your IIC Las Vegas setup and the 36T pulleys in the weekend with Mod Foam on Carpet, I am sure it will be a killer one !
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:12 AM   #1077
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[QUOTE=OLD 69;3838291]



New rules in Australia allows 5 cells. Just setup my PHI, any of you guys running 5 cells? Any ideas?

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the lay out is pretty trick why the tamiya shocks tho do you think they are better than the corally ones?
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New rules in Australia allows 5 cells. Just setup my PHI, any of you guys running 5 cells? Any ideas?

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the lay out is pretty trick why the tamiya shocks tho do you think they are better than the corally ones?
We run Tamiya shocks when the grip is low, nearly 1/2 sec a lap difference. Foam, carpet or high grip asphalt we run std shocks.

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Is everyone ready for practice and testing for cleveland ?? I tested the heavier oil and bigger hole piston and think this might be something that is really good for higher bite situations.. I drilled to the pistons to 1.4 mm and ran 80 wt front and 70 wt rear ... thought this was very good when the grip came up...


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Foam, Foam, Foam. All I see for new set ups for the PHi is for the foam racer. How about some of the Corally boys that run rubber and 13.5 brushless share their set ups?

Also is there any place that currently has arms and steering blocks in stock. I tried Stormer but the are back ordered.
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