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Old 11-30-2006, 10:46 PM   #76
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you do not have to have a top of the range car and all the gear to be a good driver as the saying goes in the term of aluminium hop ups nothing can beat pure knowlegde it all comes down to how the car is set up and the driver i am racing and s1 mission at the moment and doing really well im virtually always in the a main at our local club and i have no worries about getting parts it also takes a good driver as well if your not consistent in a rcae you are not going to get anywhere

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to all you anti tourimg car peopole out there
if you are bored of it and not getting anywhere dnt go and soend loads of money on a diff class look deeper in to the car and try and feel wat the car is telling you on the track find every sweet dpot on the trck ang get it rite every time
give a little patience and tweaking with the car and i am pretty sure you will be suprised how a lkittle thought can get you going faster for less
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I think TC's have been out of control. There are just way too many new cars coming out, the new JRX, the AE belt car! And the battery wars never end. I still say TC is way more fun than 12th scale, even though it costs a lot more.
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then make them in control, buy a digital servo, genius
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Old 12-01-2006, 07:40 PM   #82
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I think TC's have been out of control. There are just way too many new cars coming out, the new JRX, the AE belt car! And the battery wars never end. I still say TC is way more fun than 12th scale, even though it costs a lot more.

The offroad guys complain that there are not enough cars to chose from and the onroad guys complain that there are too many. Something tells me that neither of these have anything to do with the popularity of that segment of R/C.
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Yes, cost is certainly a factor, as is 'having the latest' car / chassis...

Another reason is the lack of tracks for touring cars in some areas. LHS sell TC's but there are no tracks within a two hour drive to run them.
The LHS in this area have lots of Buggy / Truck 'kits' but very few TC's mainly due to the lack of facilities to run 1/10th TC's. If LHS's were to provide tracks... or be able to run TC's on a Sunday morning in the car park, then TC's would be a lot more popular.

After all you can run / race a buggy on any old piece of dirt , TC's need some specialised surface..
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Yes, cost is certainly a factor, as is 'having the latest' car / chassis...

Another reason is the lack of tracks for touring cars in some areas. LHS sell TC's but there are no tracks within a two hour drive to run them.
The LHS in this area have lots of Buggy / Truck 'kits' but very few TC's mainly due to the lack of facilities to run 1/10th TC's. If LHS's were to provide tracks... or be able to run TC's on a Sunday morning in the car park, then TC's would be a lot more popular.

After all you can run / race a buggy on any old piece of dirt , TC's need some specialised surface..
we are spoilt in the UK in a 2 hour drive i have around 6-8 permanent asphalt tracks to chose from

yet the TC scene is not healthy re;; new comers , if you loads more tracks it still doesn`t work

there are only so many TC drivers to go round ,too many tracks dilutes the amount of drivers that might turn up ,thus track can`t pay the bills track closes
there are a couple of asphalt ones that have closed down or thinking of stopping not enough support to pay bills
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The offroad guys complain that there are not enough cars to chose from and the onroad guys complain that there are too many. Something tells me that neither of these have anything to do with the popularity of that segment of R/C.

off-road is getting more & more popular ,even more so now with the 5 different classe` we have next year (so confusing) off-roader`s are quite happy over here with the amount of cars on offer
simple rules in off-road are quite attractive to the TC guy`s aswell ,less hassel on tyre`s, just a simple way of driving in off-road ,just driving ,not tweaking & doing secret things in your gazzeebo

the electric car`s off today are just as or even expensive then 1/8th buggy RTR or competition ones (xray xrb8 same price as a 007
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The only way to get faster is get out there and pratice practice. I feel that clubs should put on more pratice meets where you just race yourself to find out the best setup for your driving style right gearing for the motor and so on...but unfortuantly for alot of you in the states pratice mean a 100 mile round trip or something. Look at finding out where local demographic of racers live, and find out if there is any where to move your club to a more central positon and so on. Clubs only really thrive if parents don't have to travel to far to get to a track. Also you need to provide fun sunday club meets which can be a sucess if you hold them on weeks that there are no big meets and puplicise it well by word of mouth as well as the internet.
You also get good clubs and bad clubs the good club usally thrive because they are welcoming have good racing not barging each other of the boards, open to new ideas, racers being helpful and not BS ing. I mean I end up racing 1/12th with Andy gritfths when there not enough 1/12 scalers there but he dosn't mind getting lapped 6 time cause I am racing 19t and he running brushless. And neither does he cause he knows we'll let him pass.
Also this encourages you to improve your driving cause you can see the line he is driving and try to follow that line.
Bad club clubs are the one that don't welcome new drivers or make any effort to seed them in the correct heat i know a few places where you will get seeded in the lowest heat and even though you make the A you won't be allowed in to the correctly seeded heat the next week.

A lot of you need to chill out and just have learning to set the car up and driving the fastest line on the track. Rather than buying a new car every 6 months you really can't make the tc or 1/12th handle much better than they do now without changing the packaging resrcition of the motors batts electronics and so on. And most of the car have very similar supension geometry cause they are designed to maximise the availibility of grip with the current tyres which haven't changed that much in the past 2 years.
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Old 12-02-2006, 08:04 AM   #87
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My 2 cents ..... I owned a track and hobby shop back in the late 80's / early 90's and the issues were the same.....new car, batteries, motor of the week, even new classes prior to touring cars.

This hobby, as most hobbies are difficult to maintain. How many people stay with something for more than 5 years?? The kids today have so many more things to keep their interest, that it is easy to find the new thing. Some of them have little or no cost. Ever played Frisbe Golf???

What we as reacers have to do, is to intoduce the sport to 10 people, let them drive your car, help set them up with your used car, help them set up the car and have some fun!! Realize only 1 out of 10 will take it up for any length of time. Second the club / track needs to make the racing fun. You need people talking about a series, special event - racing in the dark with glow-in-the-dark bodies (have you seen this in the bowling alley??) stuff to get the people talking about it. Run an endurance race and get sponsors to pay per lap for a charity. Us the charity tie, to get coverage by local radio / Tv. Help your hobby shop offer something at the local grade school or junior high, and give the kids a chance to experience what it feels like to actually do this.

I really love the add for Honda motor cycles, where the video game stops the animated rider talkes to the game players!!! He askes if they think he got here by playing video games ... ends with family out riding on trails. All sports and hobbies are having similar issues.

Our local HS runs races in thier parking lot from April - October. There are classes for almost everything, and this track has 3 or 4 times the racers that any other place has for 100's of miles around. This same owner has another store 60 miles away with a carpet track. On the Sunday races during the winter, 1/2 of the race crowd comes the 60 miles to race. If they did not have this crowd, the track would seem to be empty with only a hand full of die hard racers showing up.

I race at this local parking lot race 1 or 2 times a month to just relax, have fun and bench race with friends. I then run the other weekends at "Serious" racing locations. I have fun at both venues, as I have raced with most of these people, some for years, some for decades. Now I can hold my own in most classes, but I'm top of the 'B' or bottom of 'A' with the fast crowd, but I really have more fun just playing at the local track.

The bottom line, there will always be new cars, new motors, new batteries ... the sport or hobby will only survive if we as racers make the effort to have fun, help new racers and promote it. If you don't, we'll all be playing video games, but I'm sure we will have to have the new game of the week!!!
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Part of the problem IMO is the car of the week type of guys. They get the latest when it comes out, and THEN they complain that its too expensive, so after a few years of doing that, they quit because the are expending too much money. Yet, they dont realise that they are making it too expensive for them beacause they get the latest car, engine, motor, batteries etc. But they are gettin beat by people driving TC3s. Soemthing that these people fail to see is that the longer you stick with a car, the faster you get, because you get time to try different setups, plus you get confortable with the way the car handles. Not to metnion they guys that buy a new car of the same model they have every season.

IMO getting a new car every 2 years is about right.
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By no means do you need the car of the week. I'm running a TC3 (none FT) and on a good day I can keep up with the guys with 415 and Tamiya's. I say on a good day becuase my driving skill is not to the level of theirs but I can usually hold with them for a couple of laps and then I make a mistake. I'm sure if one of them took my car and raced it they would have no problem turning similar lap times. I am also using some pretty old GP3300's that give me plenty of runtime. I should be getting some 4200's soon but that's only because I'm adding another car so I don't have enough batteries now. Granted I am running a Sphere Comp and a Neo 1 motor and when I purchased them they where the new thing and best thing and same with my JR XS3 radio but I've had that for almost 4 years now.

Now I really don't want to see TC to die because honestly it's a fun class to drive. Recently (in the last month or so) all of the regular races in our club have gotten 1/10th scale pan cars. They are really simple because they have hardly no parts they are cheap and a 19t in one is just as fast as our mod tourers. I would really like to see these come back because they are fun to drive and cheap. Also recently of couple of people got 1/12th scales also and of course as soon as I sold mine everybody bought one. I think 1/12th scales are way overly expensive for what they are. If you look at the price of a CRC Pantoura (1/10th scale pan) it's only $190 (was $160 but I guess demand has risen lately) and is much larger but 1/12th scales are going for $225-250 for the new top of the line, and I think it's just to much. As of right now though in our club atleast I don't think tourers are going to die, we are starting new classes but we still all love racing them and none of us buy new cars or batteries all the time. Hell none of us have top of the line everything, we all have top of the line something but if we do we've had it for a while or plan on having it for a while.
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In their defense, they're going through a lot of trouble to reuse most of the RDX parts, so it's not a huge departure from the current car from what we've seen. The biggest change appears to be convenience of easy diff access and rollcenter changes.
I don't know syndr0me, sounds like a new car bro:

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