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Old 11-16-2006, 03:51 PM   #16
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Controlled practice and limit the numbers of days as mentioned ie: Reedy Race The open hour or so "free for all" has limited if any use and pitty those without DSM, and 3 minutes.... enough said
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Reedy Race controlled practice format.
You know when your up, batts peaked, tires sauced and warmed up, ready to go. Speeds are the same, stock's not getting run over by mods, mods get clean runs. And by the time quals and mains come around, everyone is already in a rythom to go.
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Just one thing to add:

Don't get those dam chairs they use at the Reedy, huh Jason?
those darn chairs got me at the TCS regional!

if i ever attend a "big race"... i like the controlled practice (Reedy style). you run with the people you race with.
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:15 PM   #19
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Controlled practice only....look at the Reedy Race format. I think that's perfect...practice heats set up like Q's. And LIMITED controlled practice, ie, Wednesday and Thursday only. Reduce the time needed to attend a national event and I think entries will increase a little.
I 100% agree. It's probably most feasable to conduct 3 rounds per day of controlled practice at a National event. The Reedy Race has right around 200 entries of all 5 minute touring cars. At the Nationals, you'll have 250 entries plus 8 minute 1/12th scale.

For offroad, this makes even more sense. Now people can go on the stand and drive for 10 minutes on one battery pack. This creates longer lines on the driver's stand and longer days at the track.
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Personally, I loved the way that Scotty ran the IIC, and think that all races should be run that way. The uncontrolled practice before and after the controlled practice while waiting to get kicked out of the convention hall was great for doing quick test sessions to be sure that your car was tuned properly, or to try something out. The only thing that could make it better is to have someone directing it to be 3 minute sessions.

To have all of practice uncontrolled would be bad for everyone with the fast/slow mix of different classes.
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Reedy Race controlled practice format.
You know when your up, batts peaked, tires sauced and warmed up, ready to go. Speeds are the same, stock's not getting run over by mods, mods get clean runs. And by the time quals and mains come around, everyone is already in a rythom to go.
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No way. That would only work all of the time.

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I'm with EA "Either fully controlled practice in your actual heat race or timed (5 and 8 minute) runs by class."
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:53 AM   #23
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Hey whats goin on here? There aren't 10 different arguments on this thread..

The Reedy format is great. It is also used at Cleveland and has worked for years. Its the same for everyone, and it can actually help racers budget the race easier because they know exactly how many times they will see the track.
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ROAR Nationals have wide open practice on the day before qualifying.

Races like the Novak Race, Reedy Race and IIC have nothing but Contolled Practice in Heat order.

The Snowbirds has semi controlled practice with time blocks for different classes.

What do you guys think is the best option for ROAR On Road National Events?

I was thinking open practice in the morning with time reserved at the end of the day to run one round of controlled practice in heat order with run through tech to sort out tech, frequency, and transponder issues.

If we get a reasonable consensus here I will bring your suggestions to the ROAR ExCom..
Adrian ........ uncontrolled practice for any real length of time at an on-road national is a bad thing. To many different skill levels sportsman racers to pro racers running stock and mod at the same time does no one any good and makes for a bad things, mix the 1/12 guys into that mayhem and it only compunds the problem.

In the case of carpet a limited uncontoled practice each morning is a good thing. Limit drivers on stand to 10 max, no driving from the ground and rotate every 3-5 min. This allows the track to be run in a bit so no one has a cold track with no traction to practice on making it unfair for the guys in the first few practice heats.

Controlled practices should be setup in qual heat format as we did at the carpet nats and was done at the paved nats this past year. If the race organizers are efficient in their time managment then running 3 rounds is not an undoable thing. We did it at the carpet nats with over 280 entries started practice at 9:00 am if memory serves me correctly and were done by 7:30 pm. We did not take any breaks. We structured the practice heats by motor then chassis type order. So we ran stock classes, then 19 turn classes and last of all modified classes. Proved to be a very succesful format for us and I don't remember anyone complaining about the lack of practice time.
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Controlled practice in your actual heat. It's nice to get some track time with the same guys you are lined up with in your intial heats. Plus as Clint said, it sucks waiting in line for open practice and then having no freq clip available.
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Personally, I loved the way that Scotty ran the IIC, and think that all races should be run that way. The uncontrolled practice before and after the controlled practice while waiting to get kicked out of the convention hall was great for doing quick test sessions to be sure that your car was tuned properly, or to try something out. The only thing that could make it better is to have someone directing it to be 3 minute sessions.

To have all of practice uncontrolled would be bad for everyone with the fast/slow mix of different classes.

I agree with timmay! The controlled practice was excellent, but if you felt you need a quick run to sort something out, all you ahd to do was be at the track when it opened. As the week went on the short open practice hour was not hectic as the guys who were dialed or close didn't need the time. I see it as the best of both worlds.

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