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Old 11-15-2006, 09:21 AM   #1
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Default 1/18 brushless system in a 1/12 pan car?

I heard about a guy who put a micro brushless system in a 1/12 scale pan car and was wondering if anyone has done this or has seen (pics.) of this being done.
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Try the tekin website.
They have it on there.
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That's were I saw it Does anyone have any pics or have done this.
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Here is the link to the Tekin article where they used the 1/18th Mini Rage brushless motor/speedo setup in a 1/12th car. In the article, they used a single screw to hold the motor in. Tekin's website needs some help. Difficult to navigate, and they don't even mention what size the motor is (370 or 380). (Not even in the Mini Rage owner's manual.)

Well anyway, for 380 sized motors, I have found a sweet 540 to 380 aluminum adaptor plate.

It's fairly thin, plenty of holes to choose from (in case one gets stripped), perfect machined quality, motor won't slip out of position, and transfers heat much better than just using 1 screw method. I haven't tried it with brushless yet, but I did try it with a 380 Mini-Quake motor, and it worked perfectly.

BK-Electronics from Germany makes the adaptor. The USA distributor is finedesignrc.com. You'll have to call finedesignrc and ask them to get it. They call it a 'Distance mounting plate for 15er LMT motors'.
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Old 11-16-2006, 02:34 PM   #5
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just bought a used mini rage I'll post up how it went when I try it.
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I ran a mamba 6800 in mine today just for kicks. I had the throttle curve pretty mellow, so it was a little slow off the line, but lotsa pull eventually. I didn't bring the laptop to change the ESC settings, and I didn't wanna play with the settings on the transmitter, so I left it.

It worked pretty well, like a decent mod motor. It's a lot lighter, so you'll probably have to mess with your setup to get it to drive the same as with a 540 motor back there.

I had it geared at a 12-72 and the motor was a little warm after around 14 minutes.
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Could this be the way to make LiPo viable in 1/12th scale? Seems like 7.4V is too much with normal sized motors. Maybe smaller, motors with LiPo could give us mortals something controllable?

I'm still curious how a Novak 18.5 would do with 7.4V LiPo, but it's a lot of cash to find out...
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Novak 18.5 brushless @ 7.4V would be pretty fast. Faster than stock 27T brushed @ 4.8V.
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Do any now the weight off the 8.0 motor Mini Rage

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you'll probably have to mess with your setup to get it to drive the same as with a 540 motor back there.
That's why I haven't tried it yet my 1/12 has bee so good that I don't want to touch it right now. but hearing another story makes me want to try it again
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Could this be the way to make LiPo viable in 1/12th scale? Seems like 7.4V is too much with normal sized motors. Maybe smaller, motors with LiPo could give us mortals something controllable?

I'm still curious how a Novak 18.5 would do with 7.4V LiPo, but it's a lot of cash to find out...

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throw it in ...LOL, if they cut you do you bleed li-po? are you going to be as open to other battery technology such as Li-mn, and new gen Li-io, which are now being sold for 1/10th cars. Ni-ag i think thats what they are being called? seem the most promising of all. killer concept...a pack that charges to full capacity in less than 30 seconds, some as low as 8 sec. now that's the future.

for a racer that runs a full pimp modded 4300 motor, with 7.4 li-po in a fast sedan class.......what's not controllable about a 12th car at FASTLANE with 4-cells and a 27T, 19T, or or a 13.5 or 4300? near any 380 with 7.4 or 7.2 pack would be faster.

have you ever driven a 12th with 6 cells (7.2V++) sub-C or even smaller. they are ballistic. motors have no problem, the 12th cars are lightweight and simple. a 17T spec motor with 6c, will put a speed shining on a 12th with a 8T with 4c. documented at a EFRA Championship 4 years back when they ran 4c and 6c 12th together.

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I tried a mini rage 8.0 in my 1/12 car last week while testing for an eduro race. The torque was about the same as a stock motor, top end in between a stock and 19T motor. Runtime with 3800's was around 9:30-10 minutes. You have to use 48 pitch gears since the only ones that will fit the shaft are the 2mm ones from the mini cars, I had it geared 12/69 and my rear tires were 47mm. I thought it be faster or at least have alot of runtime, it didn't really have either so I went with a standard setup for the enduro. Tekin's little write up on their site claimed they were beating guys running 8T mod motors, a bit of an exaggeration if you ask me, LOL.
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or that doesn't say much for the level of drivers using the 8T's at the test site?

out in AZ, where i raced for 12th 4 years, alot of drivers that i beat didn't beleive me when i told them i had a 11 or 12dbl in my car. they were running 8, 9, or 10 turn motors.
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I tried a mini rage 8.0 in my 1/12 car last week while testing for an eduro race. The torque was about the same as a stock motor, top end in between a stock and 19T motor. Runtime with 3800's was around 9:30-10 minutes. You have to use 48 pitch gears since the only ones that will fit the shaft are the 2mm ones from the mini cars, I had it geared 12/69 and my rear tires were 47mm. I thought it be faster or at least have alot of runtime, it didn't really have either so I went with a standard setup for the enduro. Tekin's little write up on their site claimed they were beating guys running 8T mod motors, a bit of an exaggeration if you ask me, LOL.
Thank you very much

but i have to say the the 540 BL motor are heavy, it may change no, since the Touring are going to 5 cell, and then 4 cell 12 scale are geting closer together in volt

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