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Old 01-05-2007, 09:29 PM   #331
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im just curious is scotty tech so hard now because of the bs that went on at the iic with guys using the flywheel from a fantom dyno to recalibrate there comms
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:35 PM   #332
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Ok here it is from the ROAR 2007 rule book:

8.5.4.2 Timing advance must be fixed at a maximum of 24 degrees measured mechanically. The space between the magnets must be centered on one set of mounting holes, and marked on one side of the can to indicate zero degrees. The brush hoods will be aligned at 90 degrees from this mark, plus the allowed timing. The commutator slots must be aligned with the center of the armature pole faces. A tolerance of two degrees is allowed on the commutator positioning, but not on the overall timing.

So is this not a teched item... If so, then it should not be a big deal to share from the motor masters how to check this... I for one sure would like to know if my motors are not legal....

PS> I see that Garrett is on here looking, come on share with us how to check this... Don't be shy....
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:40 PM   #333
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volts....u got pm
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I'll 2nd what Eddie said. I can take a case of brand new motors and check them and they are pretty scattered as far as timing goes. They guage they are using here is the same one that they used at the IIC and it cost around 500.00 to have it made. Its VERY accurate and EVERY racer has had access to have their motors checked on it before the racing started all week long...so if anyone is caught with a bad motor its their own fault for not having it checked. I would say out of all the motors that were checked this weekend about half of them had to be "adjusted" to bring into spec....And they included all manufactures...Trinity, Fantom, EA, Br00d, Putnam etc.....So its not the "tuners" cheating as most think....As Eddie said there is a certain tolerence that the actual manufactures have and some are on the very high side and some are where they should be (I dont think tech has seen one retarded yet though!!).

All I can say is Scotty's the man when it comes to races....Its great to be able to go to a race and know that Tech is going to be run the same all week for everyone!! Several motors have been torn down in Qual and everyone has been perfect.

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Hey Garrett....CATCH!! LMAO

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One other thing that is interesting is that the Top 5 in 19 turn and Mod are the exact same! LOL

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Old 01-05-2007, 10:48 PM   #337
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EA - so do they "tech" them at ROAR also? I thought twisting the comm was very hard, so how are they "adjusted" back into specs?
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:49 PM   #338
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Here is the heat sheet for round 3. After round 3 there will be a re-sort.
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ea=butterfingers...

oh hey whats this? oh woops! dont worry it hit my foot....

oh man its outa balance?....
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Anyone know if Cyrul is running 5-cell brushless?
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While you guys are wasting your time racing toys cars, I've been busy setting world records.
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Anyone know what the motor of choice is in 19 turn????
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SUPER START TO ANOTHER GREAT YEAR FOR PAUL'Y
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:46 AM   #344
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The motor of choice for 19 turn is split between komodo and checkpoint. I know Paul is running the komodo, and Barry with the checkpoint.

Bvoltz, guage was made by a friend. a sleeve slips over the stack, and another slips over the comm, when lined up there is timing marks.
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Interesting point on the timing and the $500 gauges.....you guys may be right. We need to get the Japanese to really "TIGHTEN DOWN THE INCONSISTENCIES" and make sure EVERY MOTOR TIMING IS EXACT.....I will get right on this......this makes a huge difference unlike running a HEMI motor against a Mabuchi Cross-Wrap and calling them both 19T

Eddie and Eric..I will get back to you on the increased cost on the stock and 19T motors but I would figure the Japanese would be able to fix the tolerance and maintain them and discard motors that are not within 1% of your tolerances for between $2.50 and $3.00 per motor (your cost)

So let me know when you guys want to order the first batch of these motors......
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