EFRA decision. 5 cells -1350gr
11-06-2006, 12:59 PM
#121
Originally Posted by tir
Why should off road stay 6 cells? You are limited with grip so you choose a milder motor. Why not simply reduce voltage and select a hotter motor? Capacity is not an issue......
So why mandate 4 or 5 cells in TC when one can simply select a milder motor to run slower, reduce current, and extend motor and brush life?
11-06-2006, 12:59 PM
#122
Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
I would like to eliminate motor class rules and use the number of cells to determine your class. 4-cell=stock, 5-cell=19, and 6-cell=modified.
11-06-2006, 01:03 PM
#123
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Originally Posted by tir
Why should off road stay 6 cells? You are limited with grip so you choose a milder motor. Why not simply reduce voltage and select a hotter motor? Capacity is not an issue......
this will surely put the mockers on off road
that WC guy only use 5 cell ONCE ,it was really slippery end off & he had the bottle to try & do it
But he still uses 6 cell by far ,Also off road 1/10th would even more slower then it is now
BUT
you can`t have 4 cell one country then 5 cell another then 6 cell another
this brings manufacture`s into play to which market gets there attention , which market gets stiched up ,which market gets left behind
Disclaimer
Don`t start splitting hairs just to pick holes in my post`s
just thought`s only (5 cell it will be ,but i`m allowed to gripe about it
thank god they not in control of politics be going round in circles
11-06-2006, 01:05 PM
#124
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Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
I would like to eliminate motor class rules and use the number of cells to determine your class. 4-cell=stock, 5-cell=19, and 6-cell=modified.
11-06-2006, 01:07 PM
#125
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it `s only gone 5 pages & we got Rick to sort the problem out allready
you should of gone to the EFRA meeting instead
I would like to eliminate motor class rules and use the number of cells to determine your class. 4-cell=stock, 5-cell=19, and 6-cell=modified.
you should of gone to the EFRA meeting instead
I would like to eliminate motor class rules and use the number of cells to determine your class. 4-cell=stock, 5-cell=19, and 6-cell=modified.
11-06-2006, 01:21 PM
#128
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Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
Best post yet!!!!
So why mandate 4 or 5 cells in TC when one can simply select a milder motor to run slower, reduce current, and extend motor and brush life?
So why mandate 4 or 5 cells in TC when one can simply select a milder motor to run slower, reduce current, and extend motor and brush life?
11-06-2006, 01:21 PM
#129
Originally Posted by ttso
Well JMRCA decide 4cells 1350g, now EFRA 5cells 1350g. Frankly I see the cell reducing going to happen when JMRCA announced it, so no big surprise for me.
What I'm really interesting is. How the hell you can get 5cells 1350g? If anyone every did that, post photos PLEASE.
The lightest 6cells I can made is around 1470~1480g. Lost 1 cells it's still over 1400g. 1350g... someone please post his 1350g 5cells car photo (don't tell me use 3000- battery, no one do that nowday alright?)
What I'm really interesting is. How the hell you can get 5cells 1350g? If anyone every did that, post photos PLEASE.
The lightest 6cells I can made is around 1470~1480g. Lost 1 cells it's still over 1400g. 1350g... someone please post his 1350g 5cells car photo (don't tell me use 3000- battery, no one do that nowday alright?)
11-06-2006, 01:25 PM
#130
Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
Best post yet!!!!
So why mandate 4 or 5 cells in TC when one can simply select a milder motor to run slower, reduce current, and extend motor and brush life?
So why mandate 4 or 5 cells in TC when one can simply select a milder motor to run slower, reduce current, and extend motor and brush life?
11-06-2006, 01:31 PM
#131
Originally Posted by heavy
Wrong answer - we definitely don't want 4 cell in stock.
better answer
6 cell stock
5 cell 19t
4 cell mod.
cheers
better answer
6 cell stock
5 cell 19t
4 cell mod.
cheers
11-06-2006, 01:38 PM
#132
The point is that stock is fine as it is - 6 cell and doesn't need fixing. In my opinion 19t is fine as it is and doesn't need fixing either.
The perceived problem is in mod and moves are being made to fix that - doesn't mean they have to slow down teh other classes as well.
I was simply pointing out that I thought Ricks solution was wrong.
The perceived problem is in mod and moves are being made to fix that - doesn't mean they have to slow down teh other classes as well.
I was simply pointing out that I thought Ricks solution was wrong.
11-06-2006, 01:44 PM
#133
Originally Posted by TRF415boy
No offence but you know this isn't happening. If I remember well your car went thermo while you were leading one of the finals at the WC so even you didn't do that, and you can bet that if a driver can handle the power of a 6T he will use it even running the risk of blowing it up.
11-06-2006, 02:19 PM
#134
Hmm. In a way, I have felt that the mod rules have stayed quite stable for a while, and although getting faster all the time, it's getting a bit easier to understand...
Cars look quite alike, brushless is the way to go, and batteries are getting better in terms of a longer lifespan without beeing complete garbage...
The cars are getting silly fast, but that means that everyone will need to restrict themselves, and everyone will have a better shot at it, sponsored or not, power is insane. In 2wd offroad, that has been the case on several tracks, and that class is most definitely alive and on a roll upwards again. Simply because when you have too much power, and need less, expenses aren't very big... The other way around is bloody expensive.
I can understand any factory not wanting the expenses to go down too much though, 'cause no matter how cheap and even we want the racing too be, they need to sell their products to live...
Cars look quite alike, brushless is the way to go, and batteries are getting better in terms of a longer lifespan without beeing complete garbage...
The cars are getting silly fast, but that means that everyone will need to restrict themselves, and everyone will have a better shot at it, sponsored or not, power is insane. In 2wd offroad, that has been the case on several tracks, and that class is most definitely alive and on a roll upwards again. Simply because when you have too much power, and need less, expenses aren't very big... The other way around is bloody expensive.
I can understand any factory not wanting the expenses to go down too much though, 'cause no matter how cheap and even we want the racing too be, they need to sell their products to live...
11-06-2006, 02:19 PM
#135
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Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
Exactly. I could blame the ESC, my motor, the rules, high voltage batteries blah blah blah when I know full well the reason my car shut down is because I was driving it poorly and did not compensate for main day conditions. It was MY fault. Although I admit it would be a lot more convenient for blame something other than myself.
