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Old 11-04-2006, 06:44 PM   #16
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THERES A REASON ALL THE TOP MATCHERS USE IB POWER!!!!
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Trust your matcher and the 15 above posts!
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Old 11-05-2006, 11:33 PM   #18
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Not to mentioned that the internal resistance is much lower than the GPs...
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:04 AM   #19
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I settled witth 2 boxes of WCE after reading this thread.

They are unmatched..... i think is okay right ?
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I settled witth 2 boxes of WCE after reading this thread.

They are unmatched..... i think is okay right ?

Probably can't hold that kind of voltage after the 3 min mark unlike matched cells.Good enough for club racing.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:26 AM   #21
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Orion/Peak was the only major matcher still holding onto the GP4300 and they finally caved a months ago because the IB cells were kicking their butt. Now GP4300's are on blowout at Stormer, another indication they are the lesser cell out there right now and IB is where it's at.

Not to say GP won't make a comeback but IB has proved they are serious and are making huge advancements in their cells. Look at the quick releases of 4200, 4200SHV, and 4200WCE all with huge gains in voltage, IR, and runtime with each release.
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come on guys,
i'm using gp 4300s and they are tops,
my starter box has never had so much punch
IBs for my 12th scale and mini though
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:27 AM   #23
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direct copy from maxamps for IB 4200 WCE

The latest and greatest in Sub C cells is the new IB 4200 World Champion Edition. Simply the best cell on the market in both run time and voltage under load. These cells are KILLERS. Guaranteed to be at least 1.27V at a 30 amp discharge on your equipment or your money back.

now a direct copy from maxamps for the GP 4300

This is the latest and greatest in GP Performance. The brand new GP 4300 is the best Sub C cell that Gold Peak makes. It will give you average voltage of over 1.26V at a 30 amp discharge and extreme runtimes.

the IB's are better 0.01 better voltage not very much but a little, and look at what Andy Moore used at the IFMAR worlds
Are you really gonna go throught all those unmatched cells to make sure that the numbers are correct? I have gotten cells from Maxamps and been happy with the ones that I got... After I sent a bunch back when I did go throught them. Think about it. Dyno'ed matched cells or a big box of who know's what. Good luck, tought choice.

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I quit buying matched cells. It's waste of money. I feel indifference in reality. Even when I used to buy matched cells from Team Brood and SMC, My CTX-D is still showing some variance in voltage and capacity. The variance become wider after 4 race meeting.

So my 2007 strategy : buy 3 packs, keep for 6 months, and repeat the cycle again.
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Orion/Peak was the only major matcher still holding onto the GP4300 and they finally caved a months ago because the IB cells were kicking their butt. Now GP4300's are on blowout at Stormer, another indication they are the lesser cell out there right now and IB is where it's at.
OR, we were insanely overstocked and thinned things up with a killer price.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:56 AM   #26
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GP's don't die like IB's, opps you have another dead cell, you can have a dead cell and not realy notice it.you just think your motor needs truing or something.
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Important Tip-
With the voltage,and low resistance these new 4200's are showing I have a 3 step process I have been doing and it's working GREAT.
Only in Mod Sedan have IB cells been dying fast.Umm all I can say is DUHHHH no kidding.Look at the stress these cells occur.
Get Real.

The Process is this.
Build the pack.Discharge it on a tray that will take them down to .8 per cell at least. Either .9 or .8 per cell.Tekin Battery Doctor,Rayspeed,Trinity 90 or Novak Smart Tray.
Then charge the pack at 2 amps.Yes I said 2 amps.
Let the cells get USE to each other before you start blasting them with 6.
Either discharge the pack or run it on a track as practice.
Do this same process the 2nd time at 4 amps.Yes I said 4 amps.
THEN and ONLY then do I goto 6 in the 3rd charge.
This has worked really well and less dead cells or venting.

Guys you have to understand the voltage we are dealing with in these new cells.It's almost unheard of.2 yrs ago we were bragging to each other over 1.18 cells and now there is 1.24's.Are you kidding??
We went from 1.15's in the mid 90's to 1.18's in 2003-4 and thought we had KILLER batts.Well we jumped .03 back then.
Try .06 in less than 2 full years.Stuffs GOING to happen guys.

IB's hands down.Waaay better performance..Voltage,Runtime and a lower resistance.But YES you do have to care for them correctly.
Mod sedan will destroy ANY brand of batteries after time.

Goodluck to all you guys racing and Happy Holidays.

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The Process is this.
Build the pack.Discharge it on a tray that will take them down to .8 per cell at least. Either .9 or .8 per cell.Tekin Battery Doctor,Rayspeed,Trinity 90 or Novak Smart Tray.
Then charge the pack at 2 amps.Yes I said 2 amps.
Let the cells get USE to each other before you start blasting them with 6.
Either discharge the pack or run it on a track as practice.
Do this same process the 2nd time at 4 amps.Yes I said 4 amps.
THEN and ONLY then do I goto 6 in the 3rd charge.
This has worked really well and less dead cells or venting.
Sounds interesting, however, most people don't have the time to wait around for a 2A charge, that would take 2 hours or more.
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Important Tip-
With the voltage,and low resistance these new 4200's are showing I have a 3 step process I have been doing and it's working GREAT.
Only in Mod Sedan have IB cells been dying fast.Umm all I can say is DUHHHH no kidding.Look at the stress these cells occur.
Get Real.

The Process is this.
Build the pack.Discharge it on a tray that will take them down to .8 per cell at least. Either .9 or .8 per cell.Tekin Battery Doctor,Rayspeed,Trinity 90 or Novak Smart Tray.
Then charge the pack at 2 amps.Yes I said 2 amps.
Let the cells get USE to each other before you start blasting them with 6.
Either discharge the pack or run it on a track as practice.
Do this same process the 2nd time at 4 amps.Yes I said 4 amps.
THEN and ONLY then do I goto 6 in the 3rd charge.
This has worked really well and less dead cells or venting.

Guys you have to understand the voltage we are dealing with in these new cells.It's almost unheard of.2 yrs ago we were bragging to each other over 1.18 cells and now there is 1.24's.Are you kidding??
We went from 1.15's in the mid 90's to 1.18's in 2003-4 and thought we had KILLER batts.Well we jumped .03 back then.
Try .06 in less than 2 full years.Stuffs GOING to happen guys.

IB's hands down.Waaay better performance..Voltage,Runtime and a lower resistance.But YES you do have to care for them correctly.
Mod sedan will destroy ANY brand of batteries after time.

Goodluck to all you guys racing and Happy Holidays.

Les
Intersting - how did you come up with this strategy?
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duck, I'm guessing a combination of naiveness and old wives tales.
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