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Old 08-17-2007, 09:40 AM   #136
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Another tricky part of rubber TC racing on carpet is that most of the time your car is overpowered. So chassis setup and a smooth driving line is crucial to being able to put that power down and separate yourself. I watch the foam guys at my track closely. They're a little faster, but throttle is herky jerkey, lines are vague, and breakage seems to be more likely. When some of those guys switched to rubber, while it got ugly for a while, they ultimately smoothed out and got fast. Now when they run foam they are even faster then they were before. I know world level guys make it look good, so everyone racing foams take it easy, I'm not bashing foam TC. When I want to go fast I race 12th scale.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:46 AM   #137
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Another tricky part of rubber TC racing on carpet is that most of the time your car is overpowered. So chassis setup and a smooth driving line is crucial to being able to put that power down and separate yourself. I watch the foam guys at my track closely. They're a little faster, but throttle is herky jerkey, lines are vague, and breakage seems to be more likely. When some of those guys switched to rubber, while it got ugly for a while, they ultimately smoothed out and got fast. Now when they run foam they are even faster then they were before. I know world level guys make it look good, so everyone racing foams take it easy, I'm not bashing foam TC. When I want to go fast I race 12th scale.
I agree in that rubber on carpet teaches you to be smoother and more accurate since your traction is limited and you have to be. I was learning that when our track was open and before we ran on it I said about doing rubber classes and everyone just looked at me. They then saw how fast you can go on carpet with rubber but also it took a bit more skill to do so.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:10 PM   #138
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so I have to buy 5 different sets of rubber and insert combo to get the right combination for what tempeture it is. and then they fall off like was said after 3 or 4 run .02 a lap so if someone else puts new tyres on for the main I have to put new tyres on also. I can get consistant low 10 second laps at our track from 2.25" to 2.10" and get about 3 or 4 weekends out a set of foam tires. so i have to change my droop and ride height. it's the same as if i was running 12th scale. and like I said if foam is good enough for nitro touring and 12th scale it's good enough for electric TC I'll just keep buying my double pink double pink orange jacos and be happy.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:21 PM   #139
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Foam rules. I just never could get into the rubber racing.

I have the best all round longevity and performance running foam.
I don't see how rubber could take over with out some drastic change in the performance longevity.
All though there was some rubber tires on a thread the other day that were half the going prices. Thats a plus...
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I don't think I'd be interested in rubber without a spec tire. I think that's one of its greatest virtues.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:09 PM   #141
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I don't think I'd be interested in rubber without a spec tire. I think that's one of its greatest virtues.
I prefer to mix and match the compounds like foam. Never did like 4 of the same.

One more reason I don't run rubber.
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I don't believe anyone has touched the fact that rubber tires don't lay down a groove compared to foam. Without foam tires, racing becomes a lot slower for the rubber guys.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:18 PM   #143
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I don't believe anyone has touched the fact that rubber tires don't lay down a groove compared to foam. Without foam tires, racing becomes a lot slower for the rubber guys.
As a foam racer I feel the same about rubber racers. Theres a lot of pluses to rubber. I would say they are a better alternative for the true budget racer.
But if trying to run up front and fast as possible ya just cant beat the foams.
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I don't think one would/could ever replace the other. It is a apples and oranges kind of thing people need to keep in mind. As long as each side respects the other for it's differences all should be good. People should try both and run what they enjoy.
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syndr0me, try the Speedmind/Sorex 28 premounts, they last a lot longer than the CS27's with much better traction.
Our indoor series went from CS27's to the Speedminds last year and everyone was a lot happier, for a spec premount, they are the way to go.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:57 PM   #146
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I don't think one would/could ever replace the other. It is a apples and oranges kind of thing people need to keep in mind. As long as each side respects the other for it's differences all should be good. People should try both and run what they enjoy.
Thats some good advise to practice right there.
Its good to change up from time to time to.
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syndr0me, try the Speedmind/Sorex 28 premounts, they last a lot longer than the CS27's with much better traction.
Our indoor series went from CS27's to the Speedminds last year and everyone was a lot happier, for a spec premount, they are the way to go.
I always had good luck and they last to. I'm not sure if its the belt or just the rubber.?
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:26 AM   #148
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As a foam racer I feel the same about rubber racers. Theres a lot of pluses to rubber. I would say they are a better alternative for the true budget racer.
But if trying to run up front and fast as possible ya just cant beat the foams.
The rest of the world seems to do okay on rubbers, and they're not exactly slow. Check out the modified videos.

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syndr0me, try the Speedmind/Sorex 28 premounts, they last a lot longer than the CS27's with much better traction.
Our indoor series went from CS27's to the Speedminds last year and everyone was a lot happier, for a spec premount, they are the way to go.

I have heard that several times, but the local track insists on cs27's. The Sorex's are even cheaper from what Ive seen
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I have heard that several times, but the local track insists on cs27's. The Sorex's are even cheaper from what Ive seen
I guess its all in order to keep it fair. You could try to make the Sorex the speck tire. Usually 3 0r 4 dollars cheaper, and if you can get an extra week,? 5 or 6 dollars cheaper. I think 27's have become the main one cause thats what the big races use.
Around here we can buy orion tires sorex and every rp tire, but you can only race 27's. At the local shop in north town they have a box full of tires 1.00 each. All the 27's are gone and none will by the others. Waste of money when you cant even bash them.
You would think at 1.00 each they would be gone in a New York second.?
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