R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-14-2006, 11:32 AM   #16
Tech Initiate
 
Mr.Horsepower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Channel Islands Harbor, CA
Posts: 25
Default

Not all tracks/series have an "I don't care" attitude. I run Oval on the SouthWest Tour (A touring series visiting oval tracks in CA, Nevada, and Arizona.) Our series director legalized anything up to 4000 mAh at the beginning of the season, and that's it. Basically, none of the 4200's, of any variety, is legal for this season. That way, you know you can get at least a season out of your batteries, which with proper care, is about all they are good for anyway. It's verified at tech, after every heat and main.

In order to control escalating costs for competitors, more tracks and/or series should implement this type of measure, and then police it at tech.

-Tony Staples
Mr.Horsepower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 11:34 AM   #17
Tech Elite
 
vtl1180ny's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Wrong Island
Posts: 4,963
Default

It's going to be really interesting to see where we are with batteries in the next couple of years. I remember trying to figure out how I could get D cells into my Rc10T to get 3000mah....
__________________
I still lurk....
vtl1180ny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 12:23 PM   #18
Tech Elite
 
ottoman's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 2,761
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by axle182
The fact that their new 4200 cells is bloody annoying. Why not make them 4300? Maybe Roar need to make it even more specific, and name the model of cells which are allowed. No World cells, only SHV's... might have to bring that up at our club also. Dont want anyone who has just bought SHV's to think they have to get Worlds cells also. manufacturers can produce what they want when they want, its the clubs that decide what is run.
So then IB wont put stickers on the latest cell... just go with date codes like GP did. How can Roar tell whats inside the cell, all they can go by is the shrink, cell demensions and weight
ottoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 12:26 PM   #19
Tech Elite
 
EddieO's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,414
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default

GP mostly used date codes, but they did have the SP2....which was no different than the SHV or now Worlds Edition....

Later EddieO
__________________
www.teambrood.com
EddieO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 12:29 PM   #20
Tech Elite
 
ottoman's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 2,761
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Horsepower
Not all tracks/series have an "I don't care" attitude. I run Oval on the SouthWest Tour (A touring series visiting oval tracks in CA, Nevada, and Arizona.) Our series director legalized anything up to 4000 mAh at the beginning of the season, and that's it. Basically, none of the 4200's, of any variety, is legal for this season. That way, you know you can get at least a season out of your batteries, which with proper care, is about all they are good for anyway. It's verified at tech, after every heat and main.

In order to control escalating costs for competitors, more tracks and/or series should implement this type of measure, and then police it at tech.

-Tony Staples
So now that IB discontinued the 3800 you are stuck buying other brands of cells or the still produced 3600's. I would never run a class that wants to keep me a few cells behind the times
ottoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 12:39 PM   #21
Tech Addict
 
MrBlack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: OC
Posts: 746
Default

As manufacturers/tuners/matchers we are in constant revision of our product lines. it would be easier on us to wait until a annual time to release new stuff both from an inventory control as well as a marketing angle. However having said this because of things like this forum here, word gets out very fast to those that care. If we were to wait and sit on product sombody else would simply release it and then we would be behind. As long as there is competition between companies you will see new releases come faster and faster. Do not be suprised if new tech starts coming out quartery and even monthly some day. If people would learn to work with each other beyond there own club level into a more structured national level, (like a ROAR) then none of this would matter as there would be broad rules in place to benefit the racer. As it stands now ROAR only influences the purchasing of less then 1% of the RC car market. The manufacturers have to make the other 99% of the customers happy as well and they want the latest and greatest.
__________________
TEAM ORION - AVIONICS - KYOSHO - KO PROPO - PEAK

"Racing is about the journey not the destination if it wasn't it would simply be called Arriving"

"The solution is people need to spend more of their efforts on promoting and finding more people to race with, rather then a personal quest to form a class that they can win at."
MrBlack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 01:09 PM   #22
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 745
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dodgeguy
So what is the word on this new cell? Anyone have any yet?
They are slightly better than the SHV cell... A little more voltage, runtime, lower AIR. Not a huge difference from the latest batch of SHVs to the first batch of these cells..

Also, you need to take better care of these. Leaving them without a charge, even for a few days, will allow the cell to degrade and loose runtime.

I find it interesting that I just got a PR annoucement about the Fusion/EP4200 cell... looks like a battle is shaping up.
ghuber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 03:53 PM   #23
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: England
Posts: 1,470
Send a message via ICQ to MattW
Default

More fragile?? Not liking the sound of that. The 4200/SHV cell has great performance, but it's life really isn't very good - at least IMHO.
MattW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 07:47 PM   #24
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 177
Default

There was a red M.Schumacher version of IB4200SHV few months back...
I guess the new IB4200 World Edition will re-barge as the M.Schumacher "RETIRE Edition"?????
KIMI IB4200 Ferrari Version is on the way perhaps.......
MARKANO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 08:31 PM   #25
Tech Initiate
 
Mr.Horsepower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Channel Islands Harbor, CA
Posts: 25
Default

Fatman,

You missed the point entirely. A restriction or limit is not there to "keep you behind the times." The restriction is there to prevent whomever has enough money to just buy the latest and greatest every month from gaining an "unfair" advantage. It helps control costs for all racers.

You sound like you enjoy buying all new stuff every few months, chasing a little extra speed, and that's fine. Most folks cannot afford that.

-Tony Staples
Mr.Horsepower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 09:41 PM   #26
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,049
Default

I wonder if thats a real picture of him?
John Warner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 11:20 PM   #27
Tech Fanatic
 
Skip109's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wisconsin via Illinois
Posts: 844
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Warner
I wonder if thats a real picture of him?
Skip109 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2006, 11:30 PM   #28
Tech Master
 
David Galdo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Euless, TX
Posts: 1,652
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Send a message via ICQ to David Galdo Send a message via AIM to David Galdo Send a message via MSN to David Galdo Send a message via Yahoo to David Galdo
Default

Like EddieO said, the performance is great thanks to the greater voltage and slight run-time increase. I like them (IB's). Bit of a surprise IB would release yet another version.
__________________
Hot Bodies | HPI Racing | HPI TV | Speedzone USA | Team Epic | Trinity | TRC
V-Dezign 4.0
David Galdo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2006, 01:20 AM   #29
Tech Elite
 
MR JOLLY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: MOOD;; feeling good not racing ,saving shed loads of money,lovely Tan i have aswell
Posts: 4,762
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MattW
More fragile?? Not liking the sound of that. The 4200/SHV cell has great performance, but it's life really isn't very good - at least IMHO.
Agree
__________________
EAMotorsports;;BRCA 27t National 2007 Champ's
FKO4,AdyB fan club !!
saying of the month;;The Past is History, the Future is a Mystery, this Moment is a Gift- that's why it's called The Present.
MR JOLLY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2006, 03:43 AM   #30
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 121
Default

my local track have some people fired ESC with using IB4200 WC version, pls add a fan for esc and motor .
G2B Anthony is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
>>>{Nine 4-cell EP & IB4200 packs}<<< WYLDTHING R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 34 12-12-2007 10:33 PM
JBR IB4200 6 cell pks impdog R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 2 11-07-2007 04:05 PM
4-Cell IB4200 WC karlo511 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 08-06-2007 12:22 PM
2 Run SMC IB4200 Matched 6-Cell!!! AWK R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 07-02-2007 02:00 PM
4 & 6 Cell IB4200 SHV Johnny Carey R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 13 03-21-2007 07:04 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 07:57 PM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net