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Old 09-13-2006, 09:19 AM   #1
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Steve MacLean of the Canadian Space Agency told Mission Control on Wednesday that he was removing a cover on a crucial rotary joint when one of the four bolts he needed disappeared.

"I did not see it go," MacLean said. "I'm looking to see if anything is floating."

Space debris can be dangerous if it punctures space station walls or spacesuits and can jam crucial mechanisms. However, spacewalkers have a long history of losing things in space. In July, Discovery spacewalkers lost a 14-inch spatula that floated away.

There was no indication that the latest missing bolt went into the rotary joint or any other space station mechanisms, and the assumption is it floated away, NASA spokesman Grey Hautaluoma said. He said that the astronauts simply used three bolts for the task instead of four, and that there shouldn't be a problem with that.

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Are they freakin serious!!!!! We can't even expect that a screw left off of one of our cars during a build or repair to not affect it's performance.....someone tell me.....what the hell is wrong here!!!!???
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Try decaffeinated.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:11 AM   #3
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hmmm thats funny stuff, my point here is...
and I realize that this isnt r/c related....directly, but.....
indirectly it is.....
we cant leave a part off of an r/c machine and expect it to work without flaw as it's designed to correct? We have lost how many good people and 100's of millions of dollars in our space program due to things that were supposedly not due to human error, how can NASA in good confiidence build a fully functional SPACE STATION and leave nut and bolt out and expect it to work without flaw.....do we not learn from our mistakes especially when the consequence is at the expence of someone elses life?.....if i forget to snug down a set screw for a hinge pin and the pin backs out and i break an arm i'm gonna correct it for the next run....it's all relative......
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Im sure there are places on an RC car where the difference in performance would be negligible. Like a one screw from the top deck. Or one screw holding a bulkhead when there are 3 others.
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With no gravity you could probably hold the whole thing together with tire glue!
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:58 AM   #6
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Im sure there are places on an RC car where the difference in performance would be negligible. Like a one screw from the top deck. Or one screw holding a bulkhead when there are 3 others.
true, but, we know that thru trail and error, that is something that we can notice if not immediately, over time, it's not like we can say hey, the station not doing something as it should and it's due to that bolt missing let's pull it off the track and fix it....in this case NASA does not have that luxury....these are people up there that we are dealing with not lab mice......we arent expendible....someone needs to realize that.
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true, but, we know that thru trail and error, that is something that we can notice if not immediately, over time, it's not like we can say hey, the station not doing something as it should and it's due to that bolt missing let's pull it off the track and fix it....in this case NASA does not have that luxury....these are people up there that we are dealing with not lab mice......we arent expendible....someone needs to realize that.
So what you are saying is this is nothing like RC at all. Then why are we discussing it on here?
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So what you are saying is this is nothing like RC at all. Then why are we discussing it on here?
because we deal with minds every day that have taken an r/c chassis from a company that has put years in some cases into r&d put it into average joes hands, let him drive it, make changes, and in some cases had some one rework the tolerances and make the car better,,,we are bound to be able to have an intellegent conversation about something else...most of these threads are pointless and most of the questions asked every day, if researched enough have been answered 100 times over in this forum, it's obvious to me that most of the people here ARE NOT STUPID OR DUMB, i'm just trying to capitalize on that.....
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If we had reduntant failsafes and the kind of factor or safety that they use in space equipment, we could easily afford to leave a bolt or two off in a pinch.
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You can't hold intelligent conversations on this board about anything but r/c!

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Jesus f'in c. Is R/C the only thing we can talk about on here? Put down the bong and open your eyes. There's more to life than R/C. Such as talking about relevant current events. Heaven forbid someone tries to spark up a conversation about something other than toy cars.
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You might have better luck here:

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Is R/C the only thing we can talk about on here? Put down the bong and open your eyes. There's more to life than R/C. Such as talking about relevant current events. Heaven forbid someone tries to spark up a conversation about something other than toy cars.
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Maybe he's like me and never bothers to scroll past "electric racing"
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Maybe he's like me and never bothers to scroll past "electric racing"
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I think what or8ital is trying to say here is this should be in the "Off Topic" thread.

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