R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-02-2006, 06:54 PM   #1
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 333
Default Tire prep for rubber tires on carpet

Need some help. What do you guys do to you tires for carpet racing? Tires used rp 30.
gotyournumber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 07:06 PM   #2
Tech Master
 
mini-dub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: seattle
Posts: 1,632
Trader Rating: 16 (100%+)
Default

This is how I setup my tires, I run RP30 on low to high traction carpet and the tuning for me always stays the same. After each run I clean the tires with WD40, it helps soften the rubber, make sure to wipe any excess WD40 off the tire after you clean them though. Then I just use Jack the Gripper for 5-7 minutes before I run. I wipe it off a couple minutes before my race and let the tires dry a little.

If you let the compound sit longer with this method I've found the tires will have better traction initially but they lose their traction earlier and overheat easier. I really like just letting it sit for 5-7 minutes with this method because the traction seems very consistant from start to finish. I've used this method for stock, 19t, and mod. Hope this helps.
__________________
Weylin Rose - www.shiftedcinema.com

Riding Bikes | Skiing | Helis | Rotor Rage | Cyclone Blades | RC Trim | Dead Kat Raceway
mini-dub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 07:22 PM   #3
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,131
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mini-dub
This is how I setup my tires, I run RP30 on low to high traction carpet and the tuning for me always stays the same. After each run I clean the tires with WD40, it helps soften the rubber, make sure to wipe any excess WD40 off the tire after you clean them though. Then I just use Jack the Gripper for 5-7 minutes before I run. I wipe it off a couple minutes before my race and let the tires dry a little.

If you let the compound sit longer with this method I've found the tires will have better traction initially but they lose their traction earlier and overheat easier. I really like just letting it sit for 5-7 minutes with this method because the traction seems very consistant from start to finish. I've used this method for stock, 19t, and mod. Hope this helps.
Weylin, what's up. Don't let me down at vegas. I've been trash talking with Clint since the bet. I think the dress he bought was his seize, so you know he already figured he's going to lose. See Ya in vegas.
Juan Aveytia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 07:30 PM   #4
Tech Elite
 
Skiddins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Windsor, UK
Posts: 4,762
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mini-dub
This is how I setup my tires, I run RP30 on low to high traction carpet and the tuning for me always stays the same. After each run I clean the tires with WD40, it helps soften the rubber, make sure to wipe any excess WD40 off the tire after you clean them though. Then I just use Jack the Gripper for 5-7 minutes before I run. I wipe it off a couple minutes before my race and let the tires dry a little.

If you let the compound sit longer with this method I've found the tires will have better traction initially but they lose their traction earlier and overheat easier. I really like just letting it sit for 5-7 minutes with this method because the traction seems very consistant from start to finish. I've used this method for stock, 19t, and mod. Hope this helps.
Have you tried using;

1) Brake cleaner etc for cleaning the tyres
2) LRP Carpet Additive

And if you've tried either of these what were the results?

Skiddins
__________________
Xray T4'18, T4'14 (Wet Car)
Xray X12 2018
Xray X1'16
wlrc.co.uk (West London Racing Centre)
RCDisco.co.uk
Skiddins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 07:38 PM   #5
Tech Fanatic
 
hierog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Elk Grove, CA
Posts: 891
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default

what about using tire warmers in addition to the tire additive? is it recommended, or just the sauce?

vic
hierog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2006, 09:53 AM   #6
Tech Master
 
padailey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Council Bluffs, IA
Posts: 1,603
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

I've tried a few different ways... soaking for 20-25 min prior to the race. Pretty much the same as what Weylin mentioned above... lost traction late in the race. So I tried the method given and it was considerably better! One other thing to try is something I kinda came upon by accident. I was trying to get a few laps in at our club race because my car sucked.... so I didn't have time to do the whole process so I just cleaned the tires with simple green (WD40 works the same just a little messier). I was surprised that they worked great! So I just cleaned them again and ran the main... best traction I've had in weeks. Oddly enough someone else that night was experimenting and tried no sauce for the mains and he found it better also. So if you want something to experiment with try just cleaning them and run em.

Our track right now has very low traction right now and we use CS27's.
__________________
www.hobbyplexraceway.com

Tamiya TRF417X (Lion's Automotive GTR)
Tamiya TRF416X
Tamiya F104W MP6/4 converted to F104X1 (Renault R30)
padailey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2006, 10:45 AM   #7
Tech Master
 
mini-dub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: seattle
Posts: 1,632
Trader Rating: 16 (100%+)
Default

If you soaked for 20-25 minutes I think that is why you lost traction late in the race. I've found that when you soak for longer the tires have better grip in the beginning but fall off at the end. If you soak for less, like 6-8 minutes or so like I recommended you should have more consistant traction during the whole race.

I used to use simple green to clean my tires, but WD40 does a better job of really cleaning them. If you clean them with simple green and then clean them with WD40 you will probably be suprised how much black "crap" you wipe off the tire. Just some more things to consider.
__________________
Weylin Rose - www.shiftedcinema.com

Riding Bikes | Skiing | Helis | Rotor Rage | Cyclone Blades | RC Trim | Dead Kat Raceway
mini-dub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2006, 11:14 AM   #8
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,870
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

That 'black crap' is rubber you are wiping off.....

Clean them, apply additive, leave, wipe excess, race. If you got oversteer, apply the additive to the front tyres like you would tune foams, reduce the coverage to reduce front grip.
DA_cookie_monst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2006, 01:01 PM   #9
Tech Master
 
mini-dub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: seattle
Posts: 1,632
Trader Rating: 16 (100%+)
Default

I'm pretty sure it's not rubber you're wiping off, because your tires dont wear down if you clean them a bunch. It's just the build up of traction and foam and stuff that the tires get built up with from running on the track.
__________________
Weylin Rose - www.shiftedcinema.com

Riding Bikes | Skiing | Helis | Rotor Rage | Cyclone Blades | RC Trim | Dead Kat Raceway
mini-dub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2006, 01:09 PM   #10
Tech Addict
 
Big Rigg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 574
Default

In mid-high traction tracks, I like to glue the outside edge of the front tires. It seems to mellow out the twitchiness and prevents the 'bite and grab' hooking that happens mid corner when the tire rolls over the edge.
__________________
[url=http://www.corallyusa.com/][color=Red]- Corraly USA -[/color][/url]
[url=http://www.corallyusa.com/specializedrc/index.htm/][color=Red]- Specialized R/C -[/color][/url]
[url=http://www.thunderrc.com/eshop/][color=DarkRed]- Team Thunder RC -[/color][/url]
[url=http://www.cfxpaintworks.com/][color=DarkOrange]- CFX Paintworks -[/color][/url]
[COLOR=DarkSlateGray]- Team Ertrachter Factor - [/COLOR]
If my last name were Oxlong, I would name my kid Mike... yup Mike Oxlong
-Heywood Jablome

I don't want to pay for my sig, so yawl figure it out...
Big Rigg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2006, 01:15 PM   #11
Tech Regular
 
Ridge_Racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 445
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Ridge_Racer Send a message via Yahoo to Ridge_Racer
Default

dose anyone use lighter fluid (robonsol) to clean their tires before sausing them with jack?
__________________
http://www.countdowntovegas.blogspot.com
Ridge_Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2006, 01:59 PM   #12
Tech Addict
 
RichChang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 587
Default

Considering Weylin just TQd and won 19-turn rubber at the IIC, I'd say whatever he does for his rubber tires works and is worth following.

-Rich
RichChang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2006, 04:25 PM   #13
Tech Elite
 
Skiddins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Windsor, UK
Posts: 4,762
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge_Racer
dose anyone use lighter fluid (robonsol) to clean their tires before sausing them with jack?
I know couple of people who use lighter fluid on their rubber, though admittedly we all use them on asphalt.
I use brake cleaner.

I might try some WD40 and see if there is any difference.

Skiddins
__________________
Xray T4'18, T4'14 (Wet Car)
Xray X12 2018
Xray X1'16
wlrc.co.uk (West London Racing Centre)
RCDisco.co.uk
Skiddins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2006, 07:07 AM   #14
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 603
Trader Rating: 42 (100%+)
Default

Has anyone tried scuffing rubber tires on a tire truer to prolong life for carpet racing? I ran a T2 last year with rubber tires on carpet and found that after 2 or 3 race days they went away. Would scuffing them on a tire truer help get a couple more days out of them?
rccars4scott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2006, 03:33 PM   #15
Tech Master
 
Rob Phillips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Indianapolis / VA
Posts: 1,722
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default

I would think that brake cleaner would actually dry our the rubber, look at what it does to your hand, WD40 won't dry them out like brak-clean will. Same as woth simple green, but wd40 does better because it makes the surface slicker and allows the gunk to come off easier.

BUT, like posted above, what ever Weylin's doing has got to be working. It aint every weekend you win at Vegas.
__________________
Team Durango | TrakPower | DE Racing | Futaba | Restricted Paint Worx

Velocity R/C Magazine - vrcmag.com
Rob Phillips is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
RUBBER OR CAP TIRE TRACTION PREP HELP FUJIMO Oval, Larger Scales and More 0 03-21-2008 09:18 PM
Tire warmers, with rubber tires(cs22) on carpet. Xrayskid Electric On-Road 4 09-04-2006 06:17 PM
Rubber Tire - Best TC for Carpet rcscrewz Electric On-Road 10 12-20-2005 07:45 PM
Best TC for Rubber Tire Carpet Racing rcscrewz Electric On-Road 31 10-06-2005 11:55 AM
Rubber Tire vs. Foam Tire on Carpet dizzy1 Electric On-Road 34 06-07-2005 02:51 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 10:12 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net