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Old 09-26-2008, 08:44 AM   #2086
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Thanks you John for your consideration about the Widepan car. Im no Ace but after 26 yer in this hobby i realy hop i can do this, otherwise il quit.

PRC have started anyway with it
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:47 PM   #2087
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My wide Pantoura now had the 2nd race last weekend.
A regional series now added Pro10 to the current touring and 1/12 scale classes. This was the first race of the 2009 series with 5 drivers running the Pro10 class. Rules allow running 200 or 235mm cars, unlimited bodies, batteries up to 6 cell Nimh or up to 2 cell Lipo, unlimited motors but.....8 minutes runtime. For me it was first time running 8 minutes and foams on carpet since..... well very long time.
Because of very little practice time I was using the Pantoura exactly as in the outdoor race, just trying different tires. For power I also went with the same 7.4V Lipo and BL motor as before. From the beginning the Pantoura worked very good just a little slower than the 1/12 scale cars. During qualifying I won all of the 5 rounds and had the fastest lap also. For the Finals Lotus (here from the forum) did choose his faster 235 car instead of the 200mm before. We had a hard but very fair battle through the finals were Lotus had the faster car in leg 2 and 3 but had some problems with duration and motortemperature. I had choosen a very smooth ESC setting for saving runtime and motortemperature but a little slower laptime also. Finally this paid of with winning all 3 legs of the Finals. At the Finals I also could beat the results of the 1/12 class with faster laptime and overall result this time.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:47 PM   #2088
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V-12 Glad to hear you did well with the car. My outside set up was a little different for the tires and a little softer on the springs ..... and your there.

Our small track I'm not quite as fast as the 12 scale cars but we are really close. Running the 200mm car for the small lanes.
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:49 PM   #2089
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V12- good finish with that wide Pantoura. I thought I would repost this picture of the one I tested. Very nice work by Doug Powell at PRC. The front shocks are a home modified addition. These nerf wings are no good as they break and then gouge up the tire. Get flat graphite plate Pantoura Nerf wings or Darkforce Nerfwings. Also note home added RC18T shocks used for side shocks. This is a really nice very strong small lightweight shock.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:13 AM   #2090
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Yes the chassis from Doug is very good. But mine was modified a little and isnīt exactly the same. Overall this car isnīt as aggressive on the steering as some others but allow a very smooth and consistent drive what will be fast in a long run.

The Pantoura also seems to me a very strong car what will prevent a DNF in some hard crashes. From what I have seen some certain 200mm cars are breaking easily at a hard crash. This is especially true when youīre running tracks with wooden barriers but itīs just good we donīt have this very often.
Maybe this is not a problem with slow motors but we always run Lipo and at least a 9.5T BL motor if not in the 4.5-5.5T range.
Of course the original Pantoura may be a little outdated in some areas but itīs quite easy changing this.

On some smaller tracks I could think of a 200mm car also but the more I think I would like testing a ......... someone want selling a 200mm pantoura?
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Old 10-02-2008, 11:02 AM   #2091
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Regarding the RC18T shocks, yes the Factory version isnīt that bad. Iīm using 4 of them on one of my other Pro10 cars, the Hatzenbach.
My wide Pantoura actually was made as sparecar for racing in the wet and I wanted a simplier design for this so opted for the tubes. Of course tubes have to be refilled more often than shocks but I like how theyīre working. Itīs just important using the right ones. I think the old CRC are very good.
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:17 PM   #2092
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since i race 1:18 TEK18X i have 2 pairs new unused FT shocks, but im not sure, i will test with Tubes to.

John, real nice

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Old 10-02-2008, 03:11 PM   #2093
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......... someone want selling a 200mm pantoura?
The I-Fource is in the same arena as the Pantoura .... So we can get on into your hands for not much more than the price listed on the web site ...LoL..LOL.. www.darksidems.com .... !!!!
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V12- good finish with that wide Pantoura. I thought I would repost this picture of the one I tested. Very nice work by Doug Powell at PRC. The front shocks are a home modified addition. These nerf wings are no good as they break and then gouge up the tire. Get flat graphite plate Pantoura Nerf wings or Darkforce Nerfwings. Also note home added RC18T shocks used for side shocks. This is a really nice very strong small lightweight shock.
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John, may i ask how long those FT turnbucles are for steering ?

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I'll measure mine and post it on this message this evening. 2.40 inch.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:27 AM   #2096
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Thank you John, i appreciate it
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Old 10-05-2008, 05:18 AM   #2097
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Thomas you have mail.
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:57 AM   #2098
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Thank you V12
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No problem.
Regarding the turnbuckles I think when using the CRC front end you will need shorter turnbuckles as the steeringarm uses a different angle.
I think the 2.40 may be too long here.
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