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Old 08-15-2006, 11:10 AM   #1
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Default HB Cyclone VS Xray T2: Which is better and why?

Just completed a few weeks of testing the HB Cyclone and an Xray T2. Tested here in sunny south florida, on outdoor asphalt track. In my opinion, the HB Cyclone is a notch above the T2 in handling and infield speed, with the stock double one way set up. The HB Cyclone is also a little easier to set up and wrench on than the T2. However, its a much weaker and brittle than the T2. THe Xray car quality and finish of parts is much better than any car's, including the HB cyclone, and its presentation is second to none. The Xray T2 is much more adjustable than the HB Cyclone, although its a little more technical and complex, since the Cyclone is minimal and simple in its design and set ups. Overall, the Xray T2 is best suited for intermediate to experienced drivers, for the fact that it comes with double ball diff set ups, and no spool, or one way options, or sway bars. Parts are very sttrong and its going to last longer after its takien a beating. Not so the Cyclone! The HB Cyclone is for experienced drivers who will not crash as often and thus break parts often. THe HB cyclone's dogbones and ball studs are very weak, and it tends to break a little more often than the T2 when takin the same punding. However, the Cyclone out of the box is more race ready and has more option parts for speed and handling, and its just a quicker car in the infield. All those who have driven both cars, please comment and share your findings and opinions
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What "hop-up" parts does the Cyclone come with that the Xray doesn't? Did you test any on carpet?

I'd be interested to see where this thread goes (if anywhere) as these two units are at the top of my list for the next upgrade.
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and no spool, or one way options, or sway bars.

These parts are available, they just dont come in the box
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I have had the t2 for about 6 months and only broke 2 steering knuckles. At my track the only cars i see on the track are T2 FK05 RDX. I have yet to see a HB car. My opinion of HB is as another rtr company. Not saying there car is bad but i wouldnt expect much from it.
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Did you try to optimize each cars setup... or are we talking "out of the box" cars and setups?
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These parts are available, they just dont come in the box
With the addition of these parts does this put the cost of the Xray above the HB? Then if you wanted to upgrade to aluminum dampers, say the Tamiya TRF, that's even more.
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But if i was going to put out that much money wouldnt you want a real name brand and a car that you know is going to preform. I wouldnt buy some car from a company that started out making tmaxx parts and rtrs they would have to build a few good cars to make me think of buying one.
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But if i was going to put out that much money wouldnt you want a real name brand and a car that you know is going to preform. I wouldnt buy some car from a company that started out making tmaxx parts and rtrs they would have to build a few good cars to make me think of buying one.
real name brand?? If I didn't read it wrong, the HB just recently won the world champ with their car. Tamiya makes RTR also and they had won many races. does it mean they are not also performing??

Not dissing you, but just because a company produce a RTR car. It doesn't mean they can't win. Well.. there are few exception like Nikko and Radio shack.

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My opinion of HB is as another rtr company. Not saying there car is bad but i wouldnt expect much from it.
What’s there to expect…? It’s only the current world and euro champ. Hahaha If HB was a rtr company as you say I don’t thing they’d have a team of full time top level drivers racing all over the globe.

I have both and my HB is always faster. Just difficult for me to get parts.
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I have had the t2 for about 6 months and only broke 2 steering knuckles. At my track the only cars i see on the track are T2 FK05 RDX. I have yet to see a HB car. My opinion of HB is as another rtr company. Not saying there car is bad but i wouldnt expect much from it.

I guess HB won all of these races with a RTR!!






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the cyclone and tamiya MSX are almost clones of eachother and have proven to both be the top asphalt cars on the market.the T2 is a great car also.you will not currently see many cyclones on carpet right now but that will be changing very shortly.
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I seen one over at Horsham
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pretty cool huh? we should have the finishing touches for this weekend.
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the cyclone and tamiya MSX are almost clones of eachother and have proven to both be the top asphalt cars on the market.the T2 is a great car also.you will not currently see many cyclones on carpet right now but that will be changing very shortly.


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pretty cool huh? we should have the finishing touches for this weekend.


yea looked pretty cool, and for jason's first weekend with it, pretty darn fast
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