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Old 01-26-2003, 10:35 AM   #1
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Never owning a top end electric, I was woundering is the over all cost that much less and what is the topp speed of a mid-high end
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How is the cost and performance compared to a nitro touring car
something like the 4-tech?
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it costs much more to have the best electric stuff than nitro's
assuming upgrading the car(chassis n stuff) is about the same...
then a good ESC and motor would be = a racing engine....
BUT when it comes to batteries and chargers...nitro wins.
a mid-high-end electric can probably do 30mph or more on a track with a hot motor.
sometimes nitro's are faster than electric but mostly electrics are faster on track.
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Only your LHS will tell you electric is cheaper than nitro. Nitro looks expensive because of all the things you need to get the car around the track after you buy it.

lee82gx is right on target, and he didn't mention anything about the # of batteries and motors it can take to make it thru a season. Not to mention that all those battery packs @ ~$80 each are only going to work well for one season... IF you buy a good charger ($150+).

The list goes on and on....

motors
batteries
comm lathe
12vdc power supply
charger
etc, etc...
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It all depends on where you wanna be....

If your concidering an electric versus a Traxxas Nitro 4-tec there is really no comparson..... competetive electric set-up can cost as little as $400, or as much as $1000 depending upon the level of equiptment you want or need......

The level of equiptment you need depends on where you are racing, and who you are racing...... at most normal club type of evemts would say you could easily get away with the lower end of the price range....... All the carbon fibre this and Graphite that can easily be overcome by driving skill, if you happen to race at one of the top 10% tracks, then you will eventually need all those dohickies as the level of competition is much higher and you will need t get an edge, or at least not have a disadvantage to be competetive.........

BTW: the N4-tec will never be on that level of competition even in the surest hands......
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Old 01-26-2003, 06:20 PM   #5
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I heard the 4-tech was one of the best.
Is that not the case when it comes to mid - high level racing and if it is not whats wrong with it?

thanks for all the info
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4-tec is neither the best nitro nor electric.period.
in nitro i dont think it even figures...probably only better than CEN
in electric....well let's just say even my Pro3 is not popular enuff.
WHY?it wasnt design for racing..just entry level basher.
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Old 01-26-2003, 06:32 PM   #7
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The Nitro 4-tec was desihned for one purpose only.... to go fast, and at that it is acceptable, however Traxxas is really askng for a lawsuit, becuase it has very little traction at any speeds...... meaning it handles for crap......

the suspension is flimsy, it is overweight, and there is very little you can do to make the thing stick to the track......

If you want a mid-high end nitro car look at the Kyosho V-one-R, Mugen MTX, Associated TC3 nitro, Trinity Reflex NT, Serpent Impulse, Yokomo GT4..... all are competent, and the Associated, Yok, and Mugen come RTR if that is what you are looking at........
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Old 01-26-2003, 11:07 PM   #8
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If you're talking about costs. . .I posted this in another thread and it's still fairly valid. . .and it was eye-opening to me.

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Real numbers - from Stormerhobbies.com

NTC3 kit - 269.95
MT12 - 149.85
Front Foams (45 shore, Jaco) - 19.95
Rear Foams (40 shore, Jaco) - 19.95
Receiver Pack - Dynamite - 34.95
Hitec 945MG steering servo - 79.95
Hitec 625MG throttle servo - 49.95
Hitec 3 channel receiver (75) - 49.95
Body (Trinity Reference) - 21.95
AE Starter Box - 79.95
Battery Packs for starter box- 2 @ 14.95
Glow Starter - 14.95
1 Gallon O'Donnel 20% - $20.95 (local)

Total Nitro 1/10th scale - 842.30 plus tax and shipping

FTTC3 kit - 289.95
Reedy Ti 10x2 - 54.95
Matched 3300's - [email protected]
Quantum Competition - 159.95
Hitec 945MG steering servo - 79.95
Yok dish rims - 6.95
HPI Green inserts - [email protected] 4.95
Sorex 36G's - [email protected] 12.95
Body (Trinity Reference) - 21.95
Novak Millenium - 142.95

Total Electric 1/10th scale - 1028.30 plus tax and shipping

RC10L2 kit - 159.95
Reedy Ti 10x2 - 54.95
Hitec 625 steering servo - 49.95
Quantum Competition - 159.95
Matched 3300s - [email protected]
Novak Millenium - 142.95
TRC Pink fronts - 24.95
Jaco Green rears - 14.95
Hot Bodies Toyota GT1 - 22.00 (from Hotbodies)

Total Pro10 - 839.50

Okay, granted - I went fairly high end with most things. But I did it with ALL THREE and I think I was reasonable for an actual RACING setup.

Okay, I think my eyes have been opened. Hmmmmmmm
And, yes, I would place the Traxxas above the Cen (I ran the GX-1 for a while. . .) but barely!
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boomer are u an accountant or something?
great job with the figures...but well waht can we do?we love electric....the satisfaction from doing what u like is priceless..
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Excuse me Boomer, you have 3 battery packs listed for the nitro package and no charger.... follow suit and add a millenium tothat package and you get the nitro package coming in at 985.25.... Unless you want to just stare at the nitro car and never run it?????
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You can charge up batteries for nitro with a 15 charger. Eagle make one with an adjustable charge rate from 1A to 4A which is fine for nitro purposes. The power isn't important so you don't need a high end charger.
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Yeah, but you gotta follow in the highend lead he had set.... Electric can be done competetive for alot less also...... Especially concidering you can bget most everything used...... I have 4 cyclones and only paid over $130 for one, the rest I paid $65 each.......
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How long does a gallon of fuel last in a race season? you can use batteries the entire year and then some but if you run out of fuel, you gotta buy some more.
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You gotta be kidding! You don't need millenium to charge receiver packs. You need a good charger to charge electric racing packs to get all you can out of them. But you don't need $100 charger to charge a nitro receiver pack. I charge my receiver pack with the same $20 wall charger that charges my radio gear.
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How long does a gallon of fuel last in a race season? you can use batteries the entire year and then some but if you run out of fuel, you gotta buy some more.
A gallon of fuel might not last a weekend in some cases. But neither will that 10x2 mod motor because no lathe is on the list. And as for those batts, they may last a whole season but probably won't run too well if you don't add some discharge/equalization trays to the list also.

Believe me, been there...done that. Electric is more expensive to be competitive. And I only raced Stock
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