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Old 04-06-2007, 06:40 PM   #1096
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Was that a Peak/Orion 3200 battery that blew a fuse?

If so, why would you call Novak to find out about repairs? LOL you already corrected yourself...

This will be something we'll have to advise about and be very careful with, but the rules we are working on will NOT allow ANY Battery to be run if the Plastic case is DAMAGED or has been TAMPERED WITH.
It was an Orion 3200. My Nephew and I have been running Lipos safely now for well over a year. We have been running Orion/Peak 4800s and Orion 3200s. Safety is of paramount importance to me because it will only take one bad incident to set back all of the gains that have been made in the acceptance of Lipo batteries. Our local club (Fantasy World Racing) in Tacoma Washington has openly embraced Lipo batteries in club racing and we have had zero incidents to date. I want to make sure that it stays that way. Lipos are awsome but need to be respected.

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Old 04-06-2007, 07:39 PM   #1097
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It sounds like you have a cell out of balance. or their is an issue going on with your charger.

First I would check to see if both cells are showing the same voltage ( it has been explained several times in this thread how to do this) then if they are not matching votage I would try to balance the pack.

If balancing does not help then I would send your battery into the manufactuers for review.
HI MrBlack,

Thanks for the info.
I had checked & found the cell is out of balance.
1 cell is 3.32V & the other is 3.4V.
How can I balance the cells without a balancer?

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Old 04-06-2007, 10:22 PM   #1098
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The center tap is connected to the connection between the 2 cells. ie; Assuming the cells are connected (+)cell1(-)(+)cell2(-) the tap is at the (-)(+) You can hook your charger up and charge/discharge each cell individually to balance them. Remember the tap is (-) of cell 1 and (+) of cell 2.
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The center tap is connected to the connection between the 2 cells. ie; Assuming the cells are connected (+)cell1(-)(+)cell2(-) the tap is at the (-)(+) You can hook your charger up and charge/discharge each cell individually to balance them. Remember the tap is (-) of cell 1 and (+) of cell 2.
Hi TEM,

Thanks.
What current should I set on the charger? 3.2A?
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Negative to the center post and positive to the positive terminal.
Positive to the center post and negative to the negative terminal.
I believe thats the way to balance them?
I don't think I would charge at more than 1.5amps.
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Is the multiplex LN-5014 the same as the Orion?
Similar specs but different manufacturer.
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Somewhat related to this thread.....

You have got to see what a big bunch of 990 Li-Ion's can do. Watch both the videos and enjoy........

"We put in another 110 of the most powerful Li-Ion cells in the world to make a total of 990 A123 Systems M1 cells in the bike. This pushed the power output to over 350 HP. We are now able to draw 1575 amps from the 375 volt, 7.5 kW-hr battery pack. There are just 161 lbs of cells in this pack."

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Somewhat related to this thread.....

You have got to see what a big bunch of 990 Li-Ion's can do. Watch both the videos and enjoy........

"We put in another 110 of the most powerful Li-Ion cells in the world to make a total of 990 A123 Systems M1 cells in the bike. This pushed the power output to over 350 HP. We are now able to draw 1575 amps from the 375 volt, 7.5 kW-hr battery pack. There are just 161 lbs of cells in this pack."

http://www.killacycle.com/

I'm actually not that surprised. Theres a sports car out there with the acceleration of a gasoline powered supercar but powered with a LOT of CGR18650's These cells were designed and used for years in notebook computers and were not even high current output capable. You put enough of them together; miracles happen!

Back to the 3200lipo; I just got mine in the mail today and I'm pissed!.. Maybe it's my fault for not reading specs correctly; but it was longer than the PE and didn't fit in my chassis! God damn it!....
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Somewhat related to this thread.....

You have got to see what a big bunch of 990 Li-Ion's can do. Watch both the videos and enjoy........

"We put in another 110 of the most powerful Li-Ion cells in the world to make a total of 990 A123 Systems M1 cells in the bike. This pushed the power output to over 350 HP. We are now able to draw 1575 amps from the 375 volt, 7.5 kW-hr battery pack. There are just 161 lbs of cells in this pack."

http://www.killacycle.com/
This is what "several thousand" Li-Ion cells can do...

http://www.teslamotors.com/engineeri...r_the_skin.php

http://www.teslamotors.com/engineering/how_it_works.php

http://www.teslamotors.com/
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Back to the 3200lipo; I just got mine in the mail today and I'm pissed!.. Maybe it's my fault for not reading specs correctly; but it was longer than the PE and didn't fit in my chassis! God damn it!....
What chassis are running? And what are refering to by PE?
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What chassis are running? And what are refering to by PE?
It's a tamiya TA04-R carbon tub chassis. Old design but I still run it (I got GT2 TQ and A3 at a recent TCS with it!). The PE is the Platinum Edition 4800lipo. That fits in the chassis perfectly(although non-TCS legal in Canada). New rules say 3200race spec lipo legal for GT1 so I bought one and it doesn't fit! I got the carbon graphite chassis and it fits on that(very tight) but that chassis is not as good as the tub. I will try to make it work but that still sucks...
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It's a tamiya TA04-R carbon tub chassis. Old design but I still run it (I got GT2 TQ and A3 at a recent TCS with it!). The PE is the Platinum Edition 4800lipo. That fits in the chassis perfectly(although non-TCS legal in Canada). New rules say 3200race spec lipo legal for GT1 so I bought one and it doesn't fit! I got the carbon graphite chassis and it fits on that(very tight) but that chassis is not as good as the tub. I will try to make it work but that still sucks...
The 4800 and 3200 should be within a .5mm of each other in length?

Is the .5mm making the difference?
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I'll measure mine when I get home after work...
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I just picked up the 4800 and it rules, I also have a 3200 as well. I am running them in my TA05 and they fit awsome
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:40 PM   #1110
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Default 3200 size

Comes out to 138.50mm! The casing looks a bit "loose" like there is a small gap I can pinch out but I'm not concerned, yet....

Anyhow; it just didn't fit into the chassis and it's not a spot where you can carve and sand to make fit....
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